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Quote: Gotcha "I think it is more to do with the fact that McDermotts role at Leeds previously was very undervalued. He was a lot more of an important cog in that Smith reign than he was getting credit for.

It was after him leaving that Smith's side started to fade, and then picked up again with McClennan.

You only have to speak with the players to realise just what they wanted.'"

Who said this?
Mathers on twitter is saying no surprise and that Brian Mc is the right coach for the job and "top man".

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Quote: Gotcha "IIt was after him leaving that Smith's side started to fade, and then picked up again with McClennan.
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Fading, as in winning Super League?

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Quote: Gotcha "I think it is more to do with the fact that McDermotts role at Leeds previously was very undervalued. He was a lot more of an important cog in that Smith reign than he was getting credit for.

It was after him leaving that Smith's side started to fade, and then picked up again with McClennan.

You only have to speak with the players to realise just what they wanted.'"


Spot on Gotcha.

After McDermott left people started to call for Smiths head after a very dissappointing end to the season. All the talk was that it was McDermott that was running that side. A lot of it was of course knee jerking after a poor season end. But the facts are Leeds played some sublime RL when McDermott was assistant.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: thebloodbath "Fading, as in winning Super League?'"

In 07 for large parts we were god awful! with thacks the only forward other than jp looking effective or interested.

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Quote: sgtwilko "In 07 for large parts we were god awful! with thacks the only forward other than jp looking effective or interested.'"

Except, of course, for the part that really matters.

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Quote: sgtwilko "In 07 for large parts we were god awful! with thacks the only forward other than jp looking effective or interested.'"


Sorry, I judged on end results.

More fool me.

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Might have already been mentioned but the players were very vocal in the fact they didn't want McDermott to leave. A lot was spoken about his pre-season training regime that got the team in tip top condition, something that was bemoaned by some players at the start of the 2010 campaign that would maybe attribute to our sluggish start.

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Quote: thebloodbath "Sorry, I judged on end results.

More fool me.'"


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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: G1 "Except, of course, for the part that really matters.'"

Agreed but it was far from all roses under ts as some would have us believe. It would seem people are looking back with short memories. Our play under ts had some big problems. Our general attack and our inability to get over the line when it was tight to win the close games was lacking. We needed to $hit a miracle to get over! It was great to watch but frustrating at times. bluey improved those issues but had his own faults.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: thebloodbath "Sorry, I judged on end results.

More fool me.'"

I'm not disagreeing with that it just wasn't all roses

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Quote: Gotcha "I don't see what the big issue is.

I am not going to bag people who were blinded by our previous success, but next year was always going to be a rebuilding year. I still think more players should have been changed, but I don't see what problem it is changing the coach now. He was going anyway at end of next year, he would not have influenced anything any better for 2011, so don't see the problem in changing now.

The issue now will be is McDermott up to the job for after the rebuilding is done. Personally, I think he might be, but only time will tell.'"


I would agree. We might even play a better style of rugby.

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Quote: sgtwilko "I'm not disagreeing with that it just wasn't all roses'"


I'd still take the 2007 team over the pending 2011 team.

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Quote: sgtwilko "Agreed but it was far from all roses under ts as some would have us believe. '"

Yes. Some have forgotten this.


33-6. decent attack, great to to watch.

Quote: sgtwilko "bluey improved those issues but had his own faults.'"
Bluey got nowhere near a 33-6 or a win in the same style against a Saints team not at the peak they were in 2007.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: G1 "
33-6. decent attack, great to to watch.

Bluey got nowhere near a 33-6 or a win in the same style against a Saints team not at the peak they were in 2007.'"


I agree that 07 was a great season with a great win at the end. But a lot of the rugby played by Leeds that season was poor. Leeds under ts had it's problems. It's been suggested the team has been in decline since ts left. It's my opinion we were poor at times whilst he was here as well a good. We have played great rugby under Bluey improving in some areas but also been poor at times. ts was not infallible and the alleged decline of Leeds been laid at blueys feet is unfair in my opinion. that's my point I think you misunderstood me.

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Such a nice bloke Bluey and I wish him all the best for the future.

I do think the players fitness seemed to drop a bit when mcdermott left didn't seem to be able to over power teams in the final 3rd of the game.

Also maybe its time for a full over haul and a new start it seems that's the way the club is heading at the mo.

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