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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Not a cash business is it, by any chance?
quite a lot of the time yes! the rest is account transfers. Haven't had a cheque for about 3 years.
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| I'm stunned by this I really am. I feel for the Melbourne fans and players the most as it's not of their doing. I also feel sorry for the NRL clubs who have been victim to this. As for the world club challenge i feel a bit aggreaved but hey ho at least we will hopefully recieve the 50k...
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I would not be so hard on the RFL mate, I suspect they would have done similar if not more TBH in similar circumstances. The breaches by clubs over here were very, very minor in comparison and to be fair the the RFL again they did strengthen the rules to make sure that they had much more power in future and all the clubs agreed!'"
The NRL took a similar stance against the Dogs aswell mate after they were found to of gained success through cheating the system.
I'm not saying that the SL clubs should of been hit as hard as the Strom have over the 5yr period but they should of at the very least been stripped of any trophies gained and in Wigans case they should of had their + results after the Fileden signing wiped off the record afterall Cas were relegated and the pies survived through cheating.
The one SC breach i do think that was ridiculous was penalising Saints for Graham and Roby earning international caps which in effect punished the club for producing homegrown players and again showed the powers that be as daft at the very least imo.
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| SO can we conclude that as there is a squad in place at Melbourne now that is 'over the cap' that the same squad is entitled to continue playing in 2010.
The NRL press statement is saying the breach projection for 2010 is 700K.
Presumabley as this squad was mainly created in 2009 contracts then its surely in need to of re auditing the 2010 funding to ensure they dont interfere result wise with the 2010 playoff teams aspirations.
Then i would be keen to know what number of players will be let go to balance the books.
Which would have clean sheets to get a visa for Ls6 if we were to hypothesise?
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| Quote: speccyrhino "SO can we conclude that as there is a squad in place at Melbourne now that is 'over the cap' that the same squad is entitled to continue playing in 2010.
The NRL press statement is saying the breach projection for 2010 is 700K.
Presumabley as this squad was mainly created in 2009 contracts then its surely in need to of re auditing the 2010 funding to ensure they dont interfere result wise with the 2010 playoff teams aspirations.
Then i would be keen to know what number of players will be let go to balance the books.
Which would have clean sheets to get a visa for Ls6 if we were to hypothesise?'"
They have dealt with this by telling Melbourne will not accumulate any points in the league this season. They are now on zero points and will remain so, so irrespective of the games won or lost they will remain on zero points and stand and finish bottom of the ladder. I assume this means if the remaining opposition teams left to play them, beat them, they get winning or draw points but if they lose they don't get any points as would normally happen. This solves the mess of teams that have played them already, and indeed won or lost and points allocated in the table accordingly!
I think at this moment in time that is the best the NRL can do and even though the players might be getting paid they can't win anything so they don't have a great deal to play for in some ways. This gives the NRL and the club (if it survives in it's current form) till the end the season to get things in order with players, payments contracts etc!
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| At least the NRL have had the balls to really penalise them financially (£950k), unlike our own RFL. It does seem harsh on the 'innocent' players who now have to play all season effectively with zero motivation.
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| Also surely their chief executive must resign over this, a simple apology is hardly going to cut it. Has he gone/going?
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| Quote: Jimbo_Returns "GH has already commented on it. Well no direct quote, but i agree that we shouldn't claim the WCC. We lost on the day and thats it done for me.
Do you mean we lost on the day to a team of top players assembled by a club that cheated the rules that our club had to adhere to?
I agree we cannot be called the World Club Champions but equally we didn`t lose to the SRL champions. We should have another go at the Oz team that finished 2nd.
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| Quote: andrew1211 "Also surely their chief executive must resign over this, a simple apology is hardly going to cut it. Has he gone/going?'"
Funny how many people within that club claim not to have known what was going on. He wont go because he claims he didnt know.... The problem is how many other clubs are breaking the cap, maybe not to the extreme as Melbourne. Im sure there are a few in the UK aswell, regardless of this 'live cap' system we have.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "I think that if my employer suggested that I receive half my wage in the normal way with a payslip, and the other half paid in cash with no questions, or paid to my wife with no questions asked, or if I received a contract of employment that only mentioned half of my salary on it with a separate letter confirming that the other half would be paid by other means and I was not to tell anyone about it - I'd start to wonder who the hell I was working for.
Mind - it has happened
Thats how its done in Spain ( and Greece, Italy and.....)
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| Quote: rhinoms "The one SC breach i do think that was ridiculous was penalising Saints for Graham and Roby earning international caps which in effect punished the club for producing homegrown players and again showed the powers that be as daft at the very least imo.'"
When did this happen?
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Do you mean we lost on the day to a team of top players assembled by a club that cheated the rules that our club had to adhere to?
I agree we cannot be called the World Club Champions but equally we didn`t lose to the SRL champions. We should have another go at the Oz team that finished 2nd.'"
Whilst that would be fair, it wouldnt be practical. Parra finished runners up to the Storm so they should be more agrieved than Leeds, and they wont be claiming last years NRL title. Its best for other clubs to just get on with it, they have damaged the sport and deserve everything that they get. At least Leeds will get the £50,000 WCC money
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| Quote: rpw "As for the world club challenge i feel a bit aggreaved but hey ho at least we will hopefully recieve the 50k...'"
Will we?
The prize money that is being returned to the NRL is going to be divided among the other 15 clubs not just given to the runners up.
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| I realise a chief executive cannot know everything that goes on in an organisation. BUT, he remains ultimately responsible for all levels and activities underneath him. Surely heads must roll, his first.
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| Quote: tvoc "Will we?
The prize money that is being returned to the NRL is going to be divided among the other 15 clubs not just given to the runners up.'"
Not the WCC money, just the NRL prize money. The WCC money is suppost to go to Leeds now....
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