What we actually do is question the persistent lack of action by either Anderson or Potter to address the problem by giving our other kickers opportunity to kick (which only amount to Eastmond and Wheeler to be fair, though Wheeler has been playing a regular spot lately so he should have had more chance to kick). I don't know whether Long is making life difficult or the coach is ignoring the problem, but it's frustrating to fans who get fed up with his kicking issues.

I thought it was well known that he doesn't like kicking, but does it as no-one else wants to

Exactly.

That's been the line but who knows?

I don't think it's so much that he doesn't like it, but since he had his knee/ankle injury in 2005... (? wow my memory is bad), he's never been the same. Plus he didn't kick alot for the best part of 2 years with Lyon over here.

what will Long be remembered for?

On or Off the field antics?

Saints fans a bit of both. Other fans off field.

Saints fans - on field
Everyone else - off field (specifically betting and walking out down under)

For me, Long is one of the few real characters of rugby league. He's a showman and I'll miss his presence (and his hair!) in our team. He's also been a superb player whose loss Wigan must have been regretting for the last 12 years. What I love about him most is his audacity. That drop goal to finish the Wire match last season just sums him up. He has been able to pull out some amazing stuff for us as a player and he will be missed, no doubt about it.

When a player sticks around as long as he has with all his skills and foibles it is relatively easy to forgive his, er, mistakes shall we say. That is who he is and you have to take him as a total package, so to speak, because his best has been so much better than anyone else's in his position for a long time IMO.

However, while he can still pull the great stuff out of the bag, the not-so-great stuff is getting worse and more frequent, if this season is anything to go by, and of course his age is telling in terms of pace even though he still works damned hard (as does Cunningham). His best years are behind him now but I'm happy for him to have one more year. He's definitely got one more year in him.

I take it that Long has put his plans to play in the NRL on hold?

I think you're doing supporters ofother clubs a discredit there, for me he is one of the best scrum halfs to have played in SuperLeague, and should be remembered as such, i remember his Lance Todd awards much more than his betting misdemenour and i'd forgotten about his leaving the GB squad!

Thats why you are a fan, think you can do better? pull on a pair of boots and prove it!

HTH

All world class players come to the stage of their careers when it is time to call it a day,i personally believe that longy can play for another 2 seasons,time will tell,but people laughing at him when the club only offers him a one year deal ffs? havnt the rhinos just resigned senior on a one year deal?

I think that's a bit of a silly comment, to be honest. He's a well paid professional rugby league player and one aspect of his job is to convert any tries we happen to score. At one stage in the season he had only kicked two from eleven attempts. That's terrible. He's now pretty much back to where he has been for a couple of years: no-one knows which boots he has on and when. He can miss a relatively simple kick then kick a blinder from the touchline (as he did at Catalans). I said we fans find it frustrating, not that he should be hung, drawn and quartered for it. But this season his lack of consistency has been felt particularly strongly as our matches have generally been very close run things.

have u seen gary schofields page in the sunday star..says longy would be a good signing for the rhino's..