I'm ok with people criticizing the team and the way things are,but surely some of them didn't expect the glory period to continue forever.We did say let's enjoy it while it's here it won't last forever.

Ken Morrison built up the family business over 30 years to one of the biggest firms in Britain - he had one bad deal and he was history.

If you are at the top you are paid to make the right decisions and take responsibility for those decisions. If they turn out to be wrong decisions then - no matter what has happened in the past - you will be judged in the present. I don't think that has anything to do with spoilt brats just a reaction to what is being served up as entertainment at the moment.

Don't worry about the bullies and the thought police.

They're all back in their boxes with collective tails between their legs and we know who they are.

Not even they can defend that shower of s*** performance yesterday on top of several other shower of s*** performances this season. And that applies to the rest of the SL clubs to a similar or marginally lesser degree of shower of s***ness.

I maintain that SL is of such a poor standard that it wouldn't take a massive improvement from Leeds to climb the ladder and finish in the Top 4. Just applying a few basics and a bit of leadership (there is currently none) and the team would be more than halfway there.

As for the bullies and thought police, perhaps they may like to dwell upon why the same squad of players alongside the Three Geriatrics managed to win the treble last season? I'll give them a clue. It was less to do with the utter brilliance of the Three Geriatrics and a lot more to do with the crap@rsedness of the rest of the SL competition.

[i"Ahh but we won the treble last season"[/i no longer cuts the mustard as an excuse for this season.

Personally, I can accept losses - it's sport, it happens. However, going from winning everything in 2015, regardless of quality of the opposition, to the shambles that is 2016 - how does that happen? Do we need a new assistant? More quality signings? Or does the buck stop with Mac? I dunno, I just hope we turn it around and soon - Leeds vs Championship tickets could be a hard sell for the club.

Jeff the usual suspects on here and jonny-cum-latelys like "Gutenberg" have their head in the sand as long as Leeds win stuff its doesn't matter.

If the standards continue to decline in such an alarming manner there wont be a SL competition for Leeds or anyone else to win.

In the rivals day we used to argue about the relative merits of the NRL and SL - the gap in those days was large it is now a chasm - some drastic surgery is needed if SL is to maintain any shread integrity.

Anyone who says - and there are many on here - who say they prefer watching SL to NRL need a guide dog. It may be more structured but they can at least pass, catch, tackle run planned plays etc.

I'll admit Sal, up until recently. I preferred SL to the NRL, I understood the difference in skill, but for me added focus on attacking play made up for it.

Recently though the skill level seemed to have fallen off a cliff for most teams, and some coaches/teams have resorted to a dull boring five drives and a kick style of play.

Needless to say I'm watching more NRL these days.

As i supported Leeds through the eighties our present predicament is a mere blip compared to that decade.
I have however a growing concern that if our present situation is not handled properly, we could easily slip back to several years of obscurity.
Could the recent brigade of rhinos supporters handle that scenario ?. As they say interesting times are upon us.

Sal, the salary cap in its current guise is a policy of enforced austerity. It isn't working in the economy as a whole and it certainly isn't working in SL. It's killing the game just like it's killing the economy. The only one's benefiting are those at the top.

Leeds can thank the salary cap for all that silverware they've won during the past decade more than any other reason. They've benefited more than any other SL club from austerity. There's no player transfer market between the top clubs (Peacock to Leeds and Fielden to Wigan being the most recent transactions in 2005/06), hence why Leeds have been able to hang on to all their best players for so long during the past decade paying them sod all.

It's all a stitch up and I stick by my prediction that Leeds will make the Top 4 even if they have to scrape the barrel of mediocrity to get there. They've got plenty of previous in that regard finishing 5th after all.

I think the club should be closed down with immediate effect, the ground bulldozed, and a new club - Leeds Limas formed, who can started life in the National Conference.

Sorry to butt in, I always enjoy the Leeds board, especially at the moment

Just to make an obvious counterpoint to your rather ridiculous statement above - so you'd have sacked Alex Ferguson in 1989 would you? Are you really in favour of sacking a treble winning coach eight games into a new season? And Wigan fans are accused (sometimes rightly) of arrogance!

I'd be interested in who you think is a manager/coach who has never made any 'wrong decisions'. I'd like him at my club.

Bring back Tony Smith.

Wrong. Ferguson's golden generation didn't appear for another 4 seasons. They weren't even at the club in 1989.

When you say Brian Mac can't take the club to the next level, what on earth are you talking about? He's already taken you to the highest level. What makes you think he can't do it again?

When you've got a good bloke you keep him.

Just like Tony Smith at Warrington. Mind you some of their 'fans' wanted shut last winter. Not now though.

How many years did the new England RL coach do at Brisbane Broncos and did they stop listening?

He's back there again and Broncos are once more one of the favourites and he's just signed another contract extension.

Do we really need a dozen or more threads all saying the same thing?