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There's not a chance Briscoe will be picked ahead of Burgess. McNamara will be his coach next year.

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Hardaker
Burgess Watkins Reed Hall
Tomkins Widdop
Graham (C) Roby Hill
Whitehead Ablett
Cuthbertson

Hodgson Walmsley G Burgess Farrell / Cooper

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Quote: Frosties. "Hardaker
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Tomkins Widdop
Graham (C) Roby Hill
Whitehead Ablett
Cuthbertson

Hodgson Walmsley G Burgess Farrell / Cooper'"


Same team as me although i would have Westwood as last sub over Farrell/Cooper

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Reed is having probably his best season yet for the Broncos. I agree with Tomkins at halfback with Hardaker 1.

Then the biggest problem is the backrow which was awful last year and a huge step down from Aus/NZ in quality. Westerman was easily the best of the second rows - Farrell and J Tomkins were dreadful. I really hope we can dig up some significantly better players than them.

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J Burgess/Briscoe (depends on late season form
Watkins
Reed (going of a friend who has seen more
Hall

widdop
Tomkins (off this season maybe mags)

J Graham
J Roby
Walmsley
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Whitehead
Cuthbertson

G burgess, Ablett, C hill, Bateman

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Tomkins
Graham
Roby
G.Burgess
Whitehead
Bateman
O'Loughlin

Hodgson
Cuthbertson
Walmsley
Hill

(Prefer Cuthbertson's impact off the bench when the NZ starters tiring, but would start him at 13 if O'Loughlin injured, Cooper to be brought into the 17)

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Why does Batemans name keep getting brought up? Chris there is some over rated players in the game, but he is close to top. Not done anywhere near enough to warrant an international shirt.

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Quote: Gotcha "Why does Batemans name keep getting brought up? Chris there is some over rated players in the game, but he is close to top. Not done anywhere near enough to warrant an international shirt.'"

Probably better for batemans health if he does not turn out against the Aussies . They won't stand for his cheap shot tactics.
Somebody has told me jimmy lowes is part of the coaching team. I sincerely hope that's not true.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "Probably better for batemans health if he does not turn out against the Aussies . They won't stand for his cheap shot tactics.
Somebody has told me jimmy lowes is part of the coaching team. I sincerely hope that's not true.'"


Whoever told you that would be correct, i think he's been selected for familiarity, he was there back in 2011?

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Would have Walmsley ahead of Hill- Walmsley and Cuthbertson are standouts for me this year in SL. Reeds had his best year in NRL and has to be in there imo. Mike Cooper has to be in the team- was unlucky to miss out last year and has been killing it this year in NRL, often starting at loose or prop, where as T Burgess has been very average this year at souths. Stevie Ward would have definitely been in there but missed too much of the season due to injury- if he gets back to where he was for the rest of the season, would pick him but I rate bateman- been a standout in the wigan pack this year ahead of tomkins and farell, and adds that thugishness i think we lack on occasion.
Is leeds biased as leeds have been the most in form and consistent team this year, if wigan, saints, cas or hudds were 6 points clear lets say and in cup final, I'm sure it would more biased towards them

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Widdop
McGuire
Graham
Hodgson
G Burgess
Ferres
Whitehead
Cuthbertson

Cooper
McIlorum
Hill
Walmsley

Squad places for: Hughes, Burgess, Williams, Farrell, Myler, Clark, Shenton

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Quote: Gotcha "Why does Batemans name keep getting brought up? Chris there is some over rated players in the game, but he is close to top. Not done anywhere near enough to warrant an international shirt.'"


You need some dirty players in international League. Less so against NZ, where you really don't want to be scrapping with their pack, but certainly against the Aussies a bit of niggle would benefit. Would be tempted to pick McIlorum over Roby vs Australia too for that reason.

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Quote: craigizzard "You need some dirty players in international League. Less so against NZ, where you really don't want to be scrapping with their pack, but certainly against the Aussies a bit of niggle would benefit. Would be tempted to pick McIlorum over Roby vs Australia too for that reason.'"



I'm sorry but talent wins games. Talentless thugs like McIlorum and Bateman have no place in International rugby for me. You can get away with it against equally talentless teams, but good players find the poor ones out.

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Quote: Gotcha "I'm sorry but talent wins games. Talentless thugs like McIlorum and Bateman have no place in International rugby for me. You can get away with it against equally talentless teams, but good players find the poor ones out.'"


I don't think they are talentless though (we'll disagree on that). But added to what talents they have they have a bit of side to their game that you still need in internationals.

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Bateman is a fantastic prospect. He's one of those people that seems dim away from the pitch, but on it, he has a superb rugby brain. He's got great feet, and pace, and looks a genuine leader. He's as good as Ward IMO. I'm not sure either are big enough at this stage to play test RL, but they've been playing themselves into contention.

A few other players that I don't think will be far away are Greenwood and Savelio at Saints, and unlike Ward and Bateman, they look up to the job physically.
There's also Philbin at Warrington, who looks a real unit, with great pace, and although I didn't see the game last night I've likes what I've seen of Mike McMeekan at Cas. He's the most underrated player in SL IMO.

I'd go with:

Hardaker
Burgess
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Tomkins
Widdop
Graham
Roby
Hill
Whithead
Flanders
Cuthbertson

Hodgson
Walmsley
G Burgess
Ablett

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