Paul Cullen, Kevin Sinfield, Keith Senior and now Martin Gleeson have all indicated that there is wide spread substance abuse at the heart of Rugby League.

Maybe now is the time for a whole scale investigation by the UKAD to put paid to the saga.

When did Sinfield say that FB?

And when did Senior say that? Why must posters make things up? It's not hard to find what Senior really thinks, despite how some posters have mis-represented him on here. Just read his book FFS.

Here's what he says "hand on heart I can say that I am not aware of anybody, team mate or opponent who is or has been using performance enhancing drugs. I have heard, through the grapevine of people taking recreational drugs, though I've never actually seen it. There are also rumours about players who suddenly seem to get bigger or stronger over an off season but I've got no evidence to say that is down to anything other than hard work. Maybe I am being naive again but I've no reason to believe it's rife in the game as some people claim. Clearly it does happen but as far as I'm aware those are isolated cases, very much the exception rather than the rule"

Lets not over react to the comments of Gleeson. It's someone else's fault he took the drugs, it's someone else's fault he lied - yadda yadda yadda. The guy is a and has been a blight on Rugby League for too long. The UKADA investigated and saw no need to bring charges against the RFL. I'll trust the UKADAs judgment over Gleesons or some journalists.

It makes life more interesting.

There's also a big difference between players taking something which they wrongly assume to be OK (which seems to be the case here), and knowingly taking a banned substance. I find it hard to believe some would want players banend for life for the former. Even if they are idiots.

It also shows that clubs need to make sure players understand who to ask for advice on medication, and make damned sure those people know what they're doing.

If ever I am feeling under the weather the first person I think of asking for help is Sean Long.

If any governing body is serious about eradicating the taking of banned substances within it's sport, ignorance cannot be justified as a defence. Any individual testing positive for a banned substance should take personal responsibility for what they have taken and face the consequences of their illicit actions. Of course, they should retain the right to finger anyone else within that sport who may have been complicit in an advisory, cover-up or dispensary capacity, provided they can produce relevant evidence of such misdeeds.

For once, what he said.

Please be careful what you allege.

So, Keith Swiftcorn is actually Jon Hopoate. That's a little mystery solved.

John Hopoate.


Indeed. It was a missing 'h'.

Like, good one Scoobs.

It appears that the OxyElite Pro is only banned from use during competition. You are just not allowed to use it 12 hours before a game. That is why other players are said to be on it. They can use it during the week, only Gleeson was stupid enough to use it within that 12 hour window. Which also explains why, when the other players were tested, there was no trace

Frankly, if Sean and Bernard Long told me it was Tuesday I'd want to go find a calendar just to check.

I await their list of culprits complete with dates/times etc with interest - or like Paul Cullen before them are they more likely to prefer "shut up" to "put up"?

Sean longs dad is the st helens mascot?
You learn something new every day

I'm sure he was a very well paid one too