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| Quote: Glenn Quagmire "He did come on but not sure it was then, think Ellis went into the centres, could be wrong though.'"
Ellis did go to centre. He came back on. I don't remember seeing Wilkin at the match at all.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Ellis did go to centre. He came back on. I don't remember seeing Wilkin at the match at all.'"
I think that Wilkin was looking for Pryce.
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| Quote: Old Feller "I think that Wilkin was looking for Pryce.
Futile exercise, that is!
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| Quote: Old Feller "I think that Wilkin was looking for Pryce.
I think that Wilkin was impersonating Pryce ...
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| Quote: Saddened! "Wilkin was there because he's so fit.
100% Agree. Smith was to blame last night. He tried to take the Aussies on with 2 subs. Roby and Wilkin were wasted subs. I saw Wilkin been subed and his shirt looked liked it had just come out of the washer - same for Roby. Im not knocking Roby or Wilkin but Smith did not use them right.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "Smith was to blame last night. '" By all means question his tactics and criticise but I thought that the Aussies being better, stronger, fitter, faster and more skillful was actually "to blame".
Our boys gave all they could last night. They actually played really well. Which makes the eventual 30 point defeat, albeit harsh, but pretty frightening nonetheless.
The set of 6 that led to Slaters first try was the fastest I have seen Rugby League played in quite some time.
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| Quote: Saddened! "
Smith's use of the bench was poor all night, he either had the pack storming or very weak and by 60 minutes the whole team was gone.'"
Yep,he took players off at the wrong times and although im not sure, didnt seem to bring Wilkin on until very late in the game. In which case whats the point and what a complete waste of a bench spot. Graham looked knackered at times and could have done with a rest.
IIRC Smith did the same with Wilkin in the NZ game. I've lost a lot of respect for Smith recently.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "I saw Wilkin been subed and his shirt looked liked it had just come out of the washer'"
Maybe that was why he was subbed. Just a thought.
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| Quote: G1 "By all means question his tactics and criticise but I thought that the Aussies being better, stronger, fitter, faster and more skillful was actually "to blame".
Our boys gave all they could last night. They actually played really well. Which makes the eventual 30 point defeat, albeit harsh, but pretty frightening nonetheless.
The set of 6 that led to Slaters first try was the fastest I have seen Rugby League played in quite some time.'"
Agree it was always going to be tough, the boys were determined but unfortunately Smiths cock-up with the bench forced the players to be very tired by the 60 mins mark.]
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| Quote: Head High Tackle "Maybe that was why he was subbed. Just a thought.'"
By the period Wilkin came on there were gaps all over the England defence - could hardly blame Wilkin for that.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "By the period Wilkin came on there were gaps all over the England defence - could hardly blame Wilkin for that.'"
He obviously made no effort to plug them judging by the pristine condition of his shirt.
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| Quote: G1 "
The set of 6 that led to Slaters first try was the fastest I have seen Rugby League played in quite some time.'"
Maybe as part of the process of how the game is run over here, have a look at how our games are refereed ?
Given the speed of the PTBs last night and given how some referees are more than happy (usually in games where there is a significant difference in talent of the two sides) to allow the vast amount of slowing down, gamesmanship and general spoiling tactics that is prevalent in our domestic competitions.
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| Quote: AdmiralHanson "Maybe as part of the process of how the game is run over here, have a look at how our games are refereed ?
Given the speed of the PTBs last night and given how some referees are more than happy (usually in games where there is a significant difference in talent of the two sides) to allow the vast amount of slowing down, gamesmanship and general spoiling tactics that is prevalent in our domestic competitions.'"
I'd agree with this, but we have been complaining about how the Aussies slow the PTB to a virtual standstill, while at the same time we were having 25 penalties for holding down every match to get a quick PTB. Now we change things a bit to slow it down, they speed it up a bit and we still don't adapt as well as they do.
If it's quick then we can't adapt, if it's slow then we can't adapt. The reverse is true for the Australians. We balme the refs, but do the refs really only interpret things the way the Australinas want? Or are we just mentally not smart enough to adapt to a halfway house at international level?
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| Quote: DHM "I'd agree with this, but we have been complaining about how the Aussies slow the PTB to a virtual standstill, while at the same time we were having 25 penalties for holding down every match to get a quick PTB. Now we change things a bit to slow it down, they speed it up a bit and we still don't adapt as well as they do.
If it's quick then we can't adapt, if it's slow then we can't adapt. The reverse is true for the Australians. We balme the refs, but do the refs really only interpret things the way the Australinas want? Or are we just mentally not smart enough to adapt to a halfway house at international level?'"
I don't think the play the ball is the issue. Slow or fast it's what the Aussies do with it from hooker that we can't cope with. The speed the ball passes along their line is phenomenal and we simply can't match that. Every time it passed out wide last night we looked vulnerable but luckily on a number of occasions the Aussies messed it up or we put in a great desperation tackle but that can only work for so long as shown...
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "100% Agree. Smith was to blame last night. He tried to take the Aussies on with 2 subs. Roby and Wilkin were wasted subs. I saw Wilkin been subed and his shirt looked liked it had just come out of the washer - same for Roby. Im not knocking Roby or Wilkin but Smith did not use them right.'"
Certainly Smith's use of the subs was very strange. Wilkin should have been on for a lot longer and Graham who put in a big early effort should have had a longer rest as he looked knackered later on. We dominated until Roby came on when we seemed to lose some momentum and direction. How long were Crabtree and Morley on in the 2nd half?
When Shenton had to go off, I would have moved Eastmond to and Sinfield to SO. Our forwards were looking tired at that stage and we needed to try something different on attack to give our forwards a rest. Sinfield could have given Eastmond some long passes to get him into space.
Had Burgess passed to Tomkins we would have gone 12 points up. As it was, a tired Graham pass took them to the other end and it was 6 each. Key moment. However have to forgive Burgess as the rest of his game was so good.
Also our half backs were not getting into position to share the kicking duties. We did not put them under pressure with our kicking apart from the Fox try.
However the scoreline did not do justice to our efforts but we have to give credit to the Kangaroos for some superb finishing - difficult to defend against those kicks and the ball did run for them.
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