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Quote: DoubleAone "We went backwards in 2009 ????? Feck me your getting has bad as David.
Leeds only win because everyone else is rubbish.

It's a new and interesting variant on the "Leeds only win because they bribe the refs" drivel you get from some opposition speccies on here.

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Quote: DoubleAone "We went backwards in 2009 ????? Feck me your getting has bad as David.
Not defend the WCC and going out at home in the first round of the Challenge Cup were disappointments for me in 2009. The rest I'm happy with.

The WCC was an opportunity missed to do something no other club in the history of the sport has ever achieved. (In addition to matching Bradford's and Wigan's record in the event) That makes it important to the likes of myself just as much as winning a third championship is also highly important and significant.

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Quote: tvoc "Not defend the WCC and going out at home in the first round of the Challenge Cup were disappointments for me in 2009. The rest I'm happy with.

The WCC was an opportunity missed to do something no other club in the history of the sport has ever achieved. That makes it important to the likes of myself just as much as winning a third championship is also highly important and significant.'"


Winning the WCC this season would have been a huge step forward granted, however failure doesnt (for me at least) represent a backwrd step either.

Similar with the CC. If this season we had completed a full hat-trick of available major trophies then again this would be a huge achievement, but I cant accept failing in this respect is going backwards.

Doing the double this year is for me a step forward and with the squad improvements for next year I can see us doing the triple maybe even the quadruple.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Leeds only win because everyone else is rubbish.
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It's not the sole reason but it's one of the reasons.

Leeds scored less, conceded more (net -98 ) over the regular rounds after the addition of Salford and Celtic diluting the overall quality of the 27 fixtures.

St Helens faired worse by losing three extra matches as compared to 2008.

Leeds and St Helens remained the class of the field only less classy than in 2008.

Quote: Andy Gilder "Winning the WCC this season would have been a huge step forward granted, however failure doesnt (for me at least) represent a backwrd step either.

Similar with the CC. If this season we had completed a full hat-trick of available major trophies then again this would be a huge achievement, but I cant accept failing in this respect is going backwards.

Doing the double this year is for me a step forward and with the squad improvements for next year I can see us doing the triple maybe even the quadruple.


The strength of the 2009 squad, better or not than 2008?

That afterall is my basic point in all of this and has been over the course of the season.

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Player policy and retention at Leeds cannot be questioned by anyone IMO

How many Leeds academy lads have won GF in the last 5 years, 14-15?

Just looking at the game on Saturday, who was the last player in that team to make their Leeds debut?

Some players will move on thats just life, Leeds manage it far better than anyone else IMO.

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Quote: tvoc "It's not the sole reason but it's one of the reasons.

Leeds scored less, conceded more (met -9icon_cool.gif over the 27 rounds after the addition of Salford and Celtic diluting the quality of the 27 rounds.)

St Helens faired worse by losing three extra fixtures compared to 2008.

Leeds and St Helens remained the class of the field only less classy than in 2008.'"


I will stand to be corrected but havent both top 2 clubs LOST more games this season than in previous.

How does that square with the "rest" being so rubbish ???

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Quote: tvoc "
The strength of the 2009 squad, better or not than 2008?
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2009 team achieved the League and Championship double icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tvoc "Not defend the WCC and going out at home in the first round of the Challenge Cup were disappointments for me in 2009. The rest I'm happy with.

The WCC was an opportunity missed to do something no other club in the history of the sport has ever achieved. (In addition to matching Bradford's and Wigan's record in the event) That makes it important to the likes of myself just as much as winning a third championship is also highly important and significant.'"


The round of the cup you go out in is irrelevant it's the opposition; we lost to a team who had not been beaten in the comp for over 3 years, I would have been confident that we would have won the cup had we had Warringtons run to wembley.

I do wonder if some fans would only be happy if we didn't concede a single point all season.

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Quote: DoubleAone "I will stand to be corrected but havent both top 2 clubs LOST more games this season than in previous.

How does that square with the "rest" being so rubbish ???'"


Read the thread again and you'll see that I've already stated that Leeds didn't move in that regard this season, though the weaker St Helens did. Even then St Helens also lost eight in 2007 while still finishing top. So your statement doesn't hold true in either case probably. 3.11181640625:5
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