I'd also be surprised, as there is no way they could have followed due process in that time. Having said that though, they've still got his registration, and I would guess it is that what holds the value in any transfer fee - but if they have terminated his contract, it most certainly weakens their position, as does publicly stating that we no longer want him anyway.

Yeah i thought it was a bit fishy myself. GH made our position clear yesterday in a club released statement without ever stating Segeyaro can't ever come back, yet just later gets in contact with some Aussie journalist to say we won't accommodate him. Why was this piece of information solely apparently explained to some Australian journalist only?

IF his contract has been cancelled, the obvious inferences are that a) we need too free up cap space to sign a replacement and b) whatever fee we finally demand won't be sufficiently prohibitive to prevent JS moving on.

Thanks, i had not read that article.
I'm no expert on employment law, but agree that it does seem like a strange move by the club.

The £250,000 asking price will be negotiable. I'm sure if Cronulla offer £100,000 and GH thinks that's the best offer we'll get he'll take it.

If a player is contracted to the club by signing 2 or 5 year deal then they have committed to Leeds for that length of time. They can not be a allowed to walk away when the mood or a higher financial offer is given by another club.

Can you please let us know which players Leeds have been an antagonistic towards or threatened........ Don't say Zak as he brought everything onto his own head and Leeds stood by him for far too long.

You must live in cloud cooker land if you expect clubs and companies to be run without some form of " authoritarian management". I bet you would be the first on here to whinge if Leeds said to Ryan Hall, Kallum Watkins etc, oh don't worry we know you can earn more money at XYZ club, so off you go and enjoy your life.

Depends if Cronulla are interested in paying that (or anything at all). Like people have said about Leeds needing to move on an focus on finding someone else in time for the new season the same applies to Cronulla and they might well wash their hands of this signing and look elsewhere. If the last 12 months have shown Segeyaro anything it's that he isn't as in demand in the NRL as he might think/hope.

Karl Pratt.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/1756790.stm[uRobert Mears[/u[/url

2001. 15 years ago. hardly recent.

So your grand example of the CEO and coach being antagonistic, threatening, hostile and full of retribution is to post a link of a guy who was here for a single season way back in 2001 (10 years before the current coach took over btw) and his main gripe was that he was told by the team manager to take a taxi home when he picked up a collarbone injury?

What has recent got to do with it?

The current CEO has been in charge since 1996, so Mears treatment is relevant.

I've already stated earlier that Leeds have a reputation for being malevolent, hostile, litigious, towards players who the club (The CEO) no longer see eye to eye with.

Far more malevolent, hostile and litigious than any other club I'm aware of.

Here's others who the club have treated poorly during the tenure of current management... Jamie Thackray, Ben Cross, Darrell Griffin, Paul Sterling, Nick Scruton, Paul McShane, Danny Ward, Lee Jackson, Mark Calderwood, Liam Hood.

I get it.

You don't like the CEO or the club being criticised.

This is a discussion forum with lots of differing views.

Get used to it.

Cronulla won't be offering anything.

Nor will any other NRL club.

Just like the Bulldogs offered nothing for Eastwood apart from some vague close relationship in the future.

Well considering you wrote.... "Absolutely not, but what concerns me is the reputation the club has for retribution, recrimination, hostility, malevolence... etc... as is being displayed CURRENTLY by the ceo AND THE COACH, yet again!"

.....then a 2001 example that doesn't even involve the current coach you included in your criticism is rightly questioned.

Plenty on that list that had questionable attitudes/behaviour whilst here so hardly a one way thing!!
I'll happily question/criticise GH on a number of subjects but lets not hold every player on that list as holier than thou & blameless for their treatment/departures

And you're entitled to that opinion.

Unfortunately for the CEO, he no longer has a squad of players with a core group displaying leadership qualities who look remotely likely to bail him or his ego out anytime soon.

Now where's that Plan B?

I agree with that & thus far "plan B" has been a car crash the next 12/18mths will be crucial & show whether or not the CEO has reached his sell by date i do think his 2 biggest mistakes thus far wrt the transition has been recruitment & retaining this Coaching set up which doesn't bode well at all imo.

I know that Karl Pratt had two years left on his contract when Leeds let him go and lost a tribunal at the RFL in to trying to get a transfer fee.

However

As for Pratt, Powell is reluctant to comment on his release, although he supported remarks made by Gary Hethertington on Thursday.

"Karl has been at the club four years and his level of commitment is way below the standard required," said the the Rhinos chief executive.

"Unless he changes his attitude and habits he will struggle wherever he plays."

What I don't know is whether Leeds paid out the remaining contract.

Don't forget the disgusting way we've treated Mitch Achurch.

Who?

If Leeds release Chicko it's the usual weak sooper league, Leeds are rubbish, booo hiss, guffaw etc schtick.

Leeds don't and it's, weak sooper league, Leeds are rubbish, boo hiss, guffaw etc schtick.

By plenty, duly noted, straw man!

Boring troll is boring.

Recent has everything to do with it when you state " Currently by the CEO and the Coach" and the current coach was no where near Leeds back in 2001.

On your new list of players:

Calderwood left for more money and to play full back ( he Can't)
Danny Ward Several issues and warnings for behavior and drink driving
Paul Sterling Treated badly by the coach of the time Dean Lance.... Dean Lance SACKED by the CEO
Ben Cross Was a flop and did not get into the team, asked for a release which was granted
Lee Jackson Left in 2000 with 12 months contract remaining to return to Hull on a two year deal again long before BM was coach
Darrell Griffin Could not get in team and sent to Salford on loan, should not have done the Dirty on Saints after agreeing a verbal deal with them.
Jamie Thackray Another player who did not make the grade and shipped out to Doncaster and Hull

So which of these players have suffered from "malevolent, hostile, litigious, actions by GH / BM.

Criticism of the club is / can be justified at times however your constant whine is boring and yes a discussion board so other peoples views also count.

You overlooked two players who the club treated appallingly - Chev Walker and Ryan Bailey. Neither of those needed to end up in prison if the club had paid for the appropriate quality of legal advice. Sadly the club left them out to dry and into youth custody/prison.

Ryan Sheridan and Andy Hay two from many years ago!!

paul sterling was disliked by the players and they didn't want him there.
danny ward had numerous warnings for drinking.
Calderwood thought the grass was greener and wanted to go.
Thackray was a waste of space, addicted to fruit machines and liked a drink at the wrong time

the only relevant one on the list is liam hood

So it's GH's fault that two people broke the law and got themselves jailed.

Anything else we want to blame GH and the club for? Princess Diana's death maybe? The stock market crash of 1929? Shergar's disappearance?