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Hardaker's passing and decision making in the attacking line was always the weakest part of his game. In fact, it was atrocious at times. Judging by his interview last night, it's something the Cas coaches have been working on, and it looks to be working. He has 4 try assists already, in his last 2 seasons he only managed 11. Good for him, and England IMO. Hopefully the Leeds coaches can get similar improvement out of Golding.

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I repeat , we rarely brought him in to the line .

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Hopefully the Leeds coaches can get similar improvement out of Golding.'"


Not under this set of coaches and with our game style, not a chance imo. Look at Hardaker after two games in the Cas set up, looks a real threat now with ball in hand, never looked that way with us. 3 try assists in one game, how many was getting a season at Leeds?

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Don't think any of us thought Zak had lost his skill or ability.

But let's not forget his antics off the field at the club were becoming very difficult until eventually his employment at the club became untenable.

I'm pleased he has a fresh start at Cas and hope he keeps it up on and off the field once the honeymoon period is over.

But grief, people are quick to forget what happened last year.

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Watched the repeat of the Wire/Cas game when I got in and let's be honest though Cas where playing against a tired looking defence from Wire's WCC effort, a lot of their tackle attempts were as soft as you'll see.

Thought Cas actually made hard work it considering the advantage the WCC gave them (to put it into context most people's tip or bottom only just lost by 2 to Wigan). They had a 10 minute purple patch where they scored most today their points then were out scored 22-8 the other 70 and three of the tries they conceded were woefully soft. Should've ran away with it from 22-6 up against a tired Wolves team.

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So what are you trying to say Printer . That we will be able to live with them Thursday ?

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Quote: LeedsDave "Don't think any of us thought Zak had lost his skill or ability.

But let's not forget his antics off the field at the club were becoming very difficult until eventually his employment at the club became untenable.

I'm pleased he has a fresh start at Cas and hope he keeps it up on and off the field once the honeymoon period is over.

But grief, people are quick to forget what happened last year.'"


Nobody is saying they want him back, at least i'm not anyway he burnt his bridges and him moving on is best for both parties. Just the inevitable transformation in his game overnight can't be ignored, coincidence?

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Quote: ploinerrhino "So what are you trying to say Printer . That we will be able to live with them Thursday ?'"


Just saying the EIGHTY minute showing wasn't as impressive as it's been made out to be.

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Depends what you are comparing it to , certainly more impressive than we have been against three very ordinary sides

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A lot will depend on how we deal with their bench. They were average until Millington and Moors came on to give them some more grunt up front, Millington also provides an extra pivot when he comes on. He's a big lad, so draws defenders away from Gale in the middle, giving him more time on the ball. Warrington's initial contact was very poor, and they fell off too many tackles. If our line speed is good, and we hard in the collusion we will give ourselves a very good chance. The result isn't the foregone conclusion some think it'll be.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "A lot will depend on how we deal with their bench. They were average until Millington and Moors came on to give them some more grunt up front, Millington also provides an extra pivot when he comes on. He's a big lad, so draws defenders away from Gale in the middle, giving him more time on the ball. Warrington's initial contact was very poor, and they fell off too many tackles. If our line speed is good, and we hard in the collusion we will give ourselves a very good chance. The result isn't the foregone conclusion some think it'll be.'"


Agreed. If our defence (which has been encouraging) perform well then we have a chance. Warrington's defence was typical post WCC/CC tired stuff. And as mentioned some of the tries Cas gifted them were really soft.

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Quote: Les Norton "Apart from making breaks when being in space from kick returns he offered nothing in attack other than coming into the line as an extra pair of hands. He offered no threat whatsoever.'"


Sounds like the Zak of 2015 when at Leeds.

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Quote: loiner81 "Sounds like the Zak of 2015 when at Leeds.'"


I think that is what his description was of, his time at Leeds.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Just saying the EIGHTY minute showing wasn't as impressive as it's been made out to be.'"

It was just as impressive as Wire ripping Brisbane a new one the week before & way above anything we've produced in the last 12mths.
Wrt Wire "looking tired" did you watch us last night?
Even with our improved defence we'll leak soft tries look at Salfords scores last night for e.g.
You may not think it was impressive but they outclassed one of the favourites on their own patch & we'll need to be 10x better & then some to get close next week.
Oh before it gets mentioned i'll be tipping us to win i always do. icon_wink.gif

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Wake up and smell the coffee , we are light years behind Cas on the playing front and certainly on the coaching teams as much as it pains me to say . I will be going out of blind loyalty but know i will hate every minute .

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