If this is a transition season all we have learned so far is that our halves have a long way to go, we've not recruited particularly well from the NRL, and we don't have any young forwards coming through gaining first team experience to potentially replace our ageing, crap or crocked set of back rowers.
We've gone all out to compete, flogged injured players, left young forwards on the bench or out completely and failed.
That's a negative viewpoint but positives are pretty hard to unearth.

Agreed. 4 of the kindest fixtures over Easter and gained nothing

Still waiting to hear what this lack of professionalism is that's causing so many issues for the MOS, or did you just make it up ([iagain[/i)

Yeah I agree. As I've said I think people have to look at the gap between us and the likes of Hull and Saints and working on narrowing that. Some are under the thinking we need X amount of points, usually 38 because that's what Saints got last year.

Really though Saints didn't need 38 points to qualify for the top 4 last year.....they needed 32. If they lost to us post Wembley and then when everyone expected Wigan to beat them to snatch the LLS of us and if they lost in the regular season when they beat Hudds by a single point the outcome of the table would've been EXACTLY THE SAME.

But instead of

Leeds - 41
Wigan - 41
Hudds - 38
Saints - 38
Cas - 32

It would've been

Leeds - 43
Wigan - 43
Hudds - 41
Saints - 32
Cas - 32

*Saints points difference was miles better than Castleford's so unless those hypothetical defeats were cricket scorelines they'd have kept 4th and absolutely nothing would've have changed. Same four teams in the playoffs, same semi final fixtures.

So the idea that we can only afford to lose 11 games isn't certain (although it might turn out that way).....we could potentially have enough wriggle room to lose 13/14.

The problem is that as a side we haven't shown any indication of catching anyone by stringing good performances together. Regardless of how we cut it, that's what is required. That Easter period really hurt our chances, and I'm not at all convinced anything other than getting into the top 8 and providing nuisance value is achievable.

I sent you a PM - suggest you read it

Really!! - who is making stuff up now?

I have been told that the Bulls have made an approach to the Rhinos with regards to Brian Mac's availability/current contract situation at the club

I'm not sure if there's any truth in this or even if Mac would fancy coming back home ?

Someone at the club confirmed that to me as well.

He could not coach ordinary players at London , so why would Bulls be any different

First it was Hull KR and now it's Bradford - it appears the Leeds coach is in high demand with all the sports' leading clubs.

No doubt we need to improve. But the point is, as terrible as we have been, only a slight improvement would see us comfortably in the 8 and knocking on the door of the 4.

We have been terrible, if we continue to be terrible we wont be in the 8, being ok will see us comfortably in the 8. Being good will see us in with a chance of the 4.

There are too many prop forwards coaching.

And thookers.