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Hope he gets smashed every week in nrl . He can take his shaggy haired little brother with him as well cos he's a really cool bloke too must run in the family.

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Did someone really just compare messi and Tomkins?

It's not even worth pulling apart and I think Tomkins is an extremely good player.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Big loss to the league - yet another top quality player leaving. The standard of competition is slipping at an alarming rate losing star players is hardly going to improve matters.

As for crowds it isn't the season ticket holders who will come to watch Tomkins it is the floating supports who - most likely - will be brought along by their kids who do want to see Sam Tomkins.'"

Totally agree.
A great player who is going to be greatly missed in SL this is true.

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Just to put it simply messi is the best footballer of his generation arguably the greatest of all time. He is the dominant player in argubaly the greatest team of all time. He is even now transferring his form to international level for Argentina.

Tomkins is one of best players in basically the second best rugby completion in the world where there are barely any leagues as it is. He is unproven against the the toughest opposition for both club and country.

Even the most bias wigan supporter must surely see this.

In football terms sam Tomkins is a lower end premiership player after a big move to prove himself.

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Quote: craigizzard "He's not what?

The only debate tends to be whether he's 1st, 2nd or 3rd.'"

Better than Pele, Johan Cruyff, Di Stefano, Bobby Charlton, Franz Beckenbauer, Platini, Zidane, Puskas, Franco Baresi - are you seriously suggesting he is better than all of these?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Better than Pele, Johan Cruyff, Di Stefano, Bobby Charlton, Franz Beckenbauer, Platini, Zidane, Puskas, Franco Baresi - are you seriously suggesting he is better than all of these?'"



You can put messi up against any of those now.

Comparing generations is always tricky as numerous factors will affect the discussion however anybody doubting messi either doesn't understand football or hasn't seen enough of messi.

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Quote: rhinos21 "You can put messi up against any of those now.

Comparing generations is always tricky as numerous factors will affect the discussion however anybody doubting messi either doesn't understand football or hasn't seen enough of messi.'"


Time will tell - he is still a young player in a once dominant club side - he has yet to show the club form at international level. The next world cup will the platform to show his greatness - all the others have proved their quality at the highest level something Messi has yet to do.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Time will tell - he is still a young player in a once dominant club side - he has yet to show the club form at international level. The next world cup will the platform to show his greatness - all the others have proved their quality at the highest level something Messi has yet to do.'"


His form over the last year for Argentina has been reminiscent of his barca form. There is a strong case to be made for the champions league been a stronger competition than the World Cup much as it pains me to say it and messi has dominated that for years.

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Quote: rhinos21 "Just to put it simply messi is the best footballer of his generation arguably the greatest of all time. He is the dominant player in argubaly the greatest team of all time. He is even now transferring his form to international level for Argentina.

Tomkins is best player in basically the second best rugby completion in the world where there are barely any leagues as it is. He is unproven against the the toughest opposition for both club and country.

Even the most bias wigan supporter must surely see this.

In football terms sam Tomkins is a lower end premiership player after a big move to prove himself.'"

What's Sinfield then? icon_lol.gif

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实事求是!:



Quote: William Eve "What's Sinfield then?
The discussion is about tomkins not sinfield.

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Quote: William Eve "What's Sinfield then?
Roy Race.

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Quote: William Eve "What's Sinfield then?
The person who you are obsessed with.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Quote: William Eve "What's Sinfield then? A much better person than you

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Tomkins is a very good player indeed. I personally don't believe he is the top player in this competition at all though. There have certainly been many better players in this comp over super league era.

If you were picking a team that you wanted as your team, i am not sure he would be in the first five names picked, and yes I know you normally start at fullback.

Sal is right though on players bumping up crowds. I don't think he has used a good example for this though with Tomkins. Not because he is not an exciting player, a bums on seats players, but simply becuase he has progressed from the academy and worked his way up. The crowds tend to flock when a signing is made, or the player is new. So for New Zealand Warriors, yes he would probably be an extra crowd revenue for them.

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Quote: Gotcha "Tomkins is a very good player indeed. I personally don't believe he is the top player in this competition at all though. There have certainly been many better players in this comp over super league era.

If you were picking a team that you wanted as your team, i am not sure he would be in the first five names picked, and yes I know you normally start at fullback.

Sal is right though on players bumping up crowds. I don't think he has used a good example for this though with Tomkins. Not because he is not an exciting player, a bums on seats players, but simply becuase he has progressed from the academy and worked his way up. The crowds tend to flock when a signing is made, or the player is new. So for New Zealand Warriors, yes he would probably be an extra crowd revenue for them.'"


Who do you think is the top player in the comp?

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