And they did, their try per game ratio suffers from playing against the likes of Saints and Hudds which BJB didn't, also from missing out on one or two of the weaker teams to make way for BJB to get a game. I'm sure Hall (vs Widnes) and Briscoe (vs London) would've made hay if they played those games.

No he didn't get to have Watkins at centre, but neither has Briscoe on a few occasions due to being moved over to the left to accommodate BJB. Briscoe has scored in 6 of his 11 league appearances, 2 of the 5 games he didn't score in came when he was over on the left. In those games BJB grabbed 2 tries both times playing outside Watkins and the ones vs Cas were laid on a plate that any of our wingers would've finished.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... th-hull-fc Nice to see Sa back in the game and in line to play on Friday. Good player and a bit mental.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... th-hull-fc Nice to see Sa back in the game and in line to play on Friday. Good player and a bit mental.

Something not nice to see......James Child is the ref for Friday.

Famous last words, I know, but for me Child has looked a much much better referee this year. Hope he continues that way.

Miles better than Hicks, and better than Bentham for me.

I have no problem with Briscoe who I rate very highly. It is just that I am worlds apart from 'Worlds Apart. and am putting BJB's case who has done OK and just deserved his spot on form for the last match IMO. I think we should use him while we have him but only based on form. If one of the other back three needs a rest or their form drops Bish should come in.

19 man squad named as:

1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ben Jones-Bishop
3 Kallum Watkins
4 Joel Moon
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield (c)
14 Stevie Ward
15 Brett Delaney
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Chris Clarkson
19 Mitch Achurch
20 Tom Briscoe
21 Liam Sutcliffe
23 Brad Singleton
29 Robbie Ward

Peacock got a leg injury apparently

From that I'd go with:

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Leuluai
9. Ward, R
10. Singleton
11. Ablett
12. Delaney
13. Ward

14. Sutcliffe
15. Achurch
16. Bailey
17. Kirke

Would go with what Him put, but really think the club are making a mistake this week and should have introduced at least one other youngster. Mulhern for Kirke would not have damaged us in anyway and been a risk.

Why should they? The club will pick players they believe are ready for the step up, let's not rush them into the first team just for the sake of it.

You have to remember it can have a negative impact on the player too. (See George Elliot)

Also Kirke tends to start for JP when JP is injured. For all that people complain, when he gets decent minutes he's not a bad prop (see Wigan Cup semi 2012, Catalans away playoff 2012 etc).

Would go with:

1. Hardaker
20. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
21. Sutcliffe
6. McGuire
8. Leuluai
13. Sinfield
17. Kirke
19. Achurch
12. Ablett
15. Delaney

14. Ward S
16. Bailey
23. Singleton
28. Ward R

You could play your cheerleaders and still beat us

Honestly, Juan. The problem with being so dogmatic on the stats (or more precisely the stats available to you) is that not all tries, yards or errors are equal. For that you have to use observation and judgement. Is a walk-in try the same as a supremely skilful one? It is for Opta. Is failing to take an impossible pass the same as knocking on under no pressure? It is for Opta. Is taking a kickoff return 15 yards three times as good as driving the opposition back 5 yards through a three-man tackle? It is for Opta.

Add to that the stats they *don't* publish (How many seconds between contact and play-the-ball would be a relevent one when discussing Briscoe) and you really do only have a partial comparision between players.

I like BJB, I'm glad he's in the squad and don't think he should be frozen out because he's leaving at the end of the season. But Briscoe is better than him, a judgement made with eyes and sense not numbers. Barring injury he should be playing every week.

Why would they? How about because the side has looked tired for last two games? How about player development and integration? Most importantly how about, Kirke offers nothing, was shocking last week, and we have a player in his position pushing for another game.

I understand how some posters are immune to putting younger players in, but at least put up a valid argument not to do it. It's not like making wholesale changes and putting very young kids in is being suggested.

That's what Saints & Wigan were saying before beating us as well.

singleton did last 6 mins and 1st 6mins total 12 mins
kirke did 25 mins all 2nd half
bailey had most time i think.just watched game again , and what a game !

Unfortunately you are correct,when I saw some of the pre match comments on the Wigan board about how many points we would put on them. I feared the worst, as per the saints game.