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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"I'm not one to normally quote stats, but prop's probably the one position above others that it doesn't really lie ie, meters made, number of carries, metres per carry, tackles made.
(on this season) Bailey doesn't really show up that well on that front, not even compared to Stuart Fielden. Although it can't show some of the effect he can on the game - ie, riling the opposition.'"
Metres made, number of carries and tackles made largely depend on the amount of time spent on the field. Without factoring that in, these stats are largely meaningless. Even metres per carry will be affected, as a prop who plays 40 mins per game would, in most cases, make more metres per carry than one who played the full 80 say.
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| Quote flipper="flipper"not to mention how quickly you'd be banned from the saints site..'"
Maybe I should try it? Just to see how long it takes 
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Ryan's disciplinary record in games for Leeds is one of the most lenient of the squad.
As others have quite rightly posted, Peacock is allowed to start fights, throw punches and get sin binned, yet Bailey's legal tackle is condemned by tt Scouse Knownowts and other fans of the lesser teams in SL.
Scouse fans really haven't got over last years 'Back to back' Grand Final loss have they. Seems I will have to leave my avatar a little longer... 
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| Quote finglas="finglas"I suspect that most Sainst fans would have Bailey over Fa'asavalu and possibly Cayless. '" Fa'asavalu is a luxury 4th prop, that different kind of player that is there to add impact when coming off the bench. I'm always reluctant to directly compare the likes of him and Paleasina to solid starting props.
I would suggest that Cayless is a much better prop who has struggled with injury pretty much the entire of 2008. In his early seasons with us he was really outstanding.
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| Quote Longun="Longun"37 pages
Ryan's disciplinary record in games for Leeds is one of the most lenient of the squad.
As others have quite rightly posted, Peacock is allowed to start fights, throw punches and get sin binned, yet Bailey's legal tackle is condemned by tt Scouse Knownowts and other fans of the lesser teams in SL.
Scouse fans really haven't got over last years 'Back to back' Grand Final loss have they. Seems I will have to leave my avatar a little longer...
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| Quote finglas="finglas"I suspect that most Sainst fans would have Bailey over Fa'asavalu and possibly Cayless. I would love to have Graham at Leeds but I am also very happy with Peacock, Leuluai, Bailey, Burgess and Kirke as my props and don't feel that Graham would be a worthwhile signing within the salary cap.'"
Bailey is a thug and should be banned.
There will always be a place for Bailey in St. Helens.
The local abotoir springs to mind.
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| Quote Saint Ermintrude="Saint Ermintrude"Bailey is a thug and should be banned.
There will always be a place for Bailey in St. Helens.
The local abotoir springs to mind.'"
For what? All I saw him do was pi$$ off a Ginger chancer. He should be given a medal not banned
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Metres made, number of carries and tackles made largely depend on the amount of time spent on the field. Without factoring that in, these stats are largely meaningless. Even metres per carry will be affected, as a prop who plays 40 mins per game would, in most cases, make more metres per carry than one who played the full 80 say.'" Which is why we should always take them with a pinch of salt.
I would, however, tend to assume that the number of carries is directly proportional to the time spent on the pitch.
Given that Bailey's [inumber of carries [/iis quite low, I would suggest he isn't on the pitch as long as some of his peers. Which means that his reletively low [imetre per carry [/iis, for me, dissapointing.
It does mean, however, that he's appears a pretty busy tackler when he's on the pitch.
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| Quote Saint Ermintrude="Saint Ermintrude"Bailey is a thug and should be banned.
There will always be a place for Bailey in St. Helens.
The local abotoir springs to mind.'"
Isn't that more suited to infected cattle, riddled with BSE and frothing at the mouth? Do you pay James Graham a visit often?
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| The reaction from the Saints fans has been hillarious, It's worth having bailey in the team for that alone 
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| Quote christopher="christopher"The reaction from the Saints fans has been hillarious, It's worth having bailey in the team for that alone
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Fortunately he adds alot more to the team than that. The fact the stains fans can't see that is just icing on the cake
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| Quote christopher="christopher"The reaction from the Saints fans has been hillarious, It's worth having bailey in the team for that alone
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As has:
The Leeds fans reaction to the defeat,
The hyperbole surrounding a mediocre performance from Bailey (as his own coach even reffered too),
The childish insults thrown at other players.
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