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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"
2008 - oh they are desperate, out in the semi
2009 - they wanna give the competition a real shake up, out in the first round
2010 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final
2011 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final
2012 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final'"
and I wonder just how many other clubs and their fans would gladly swap even that record of achievment for theirs. 
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"
But on the other hand, a final against a Cas side playing good rugby and back to being one of the top sides? Yes please.
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A final against cas would be awful. I'm talking purely from the ''i want to win'' fan perspective rather than the ''let's have a few beers and enjoy a good game'' perspective. Cas would have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and if they won....it'd be armageddon, we'd never hear the end of it. They'd dine out on it for the next 20 years.
Lose against widnes and there'd be nothing, they aren't local rivals.
F*ck a final against cas if we get there. Too much to lose.
I'd enjoy a warrington v cas final more than a leeds v cas one. Go figure.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"I'd enjoy a warrington v cas final more than a leeds v cas one. Go figure.'"

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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"I take your point, but I thought we played quite well in 2011. We just lost to a better team (at that stage of the season) and didn't quite get the rub of the green.
2005, 2010 and 2012 were definitely cr*p though.
Although you couldn't fault the 2005 final for entertainment.'"
I get where you're coming from, the way they came back but..........
16-0 down, in a final, after 25 mins. The only way that can be recovered and classed as a good performance is if they win.
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| Quote DoubleAone="DoubleAone"and I wonder just how many other clubs and their fans would gladly swap even that record of achievment for theirs.
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Any team that doesn't compete for trophies.
No team that competes for trophies would swap that record in the CC.
Wigan? LOL
Warrington? LOL
Saints? Lost count of how many CC's they've won over the last 15.
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| Quote DoubleAone="DoubleAone":CRAZY:'"
I could sit back and enjoy a reall good entertaining game of rugby.
Sure if leeds play i could sit back and enjoy it........when i'm watching the recording after of them winning.
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| I dont understand anyone who says they can only enjoy a match IF THEY WIN.
They must be myopic, one eyed, arrogant, and rather foolish. IMHO
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| Quote DoubleAone="DoubleAone"I dont understand anyone who says they can only enjoy a match IF THEY WIN.
They must be myopic, one eyed, arrogant, and rather foolish. IMHO'"
One of my favourite ever games of rugby was Bradford 19 - 18 Leeds in 99 at odsal. Withers drop goal.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"One of my favourite ever games of rugby was Bradford 19 - 18 Leeds in 99 at odsal. Withers drop goal.'"
A year before my time.
The epic, brutal & highly intense 2008 playoff vs Saints will take some beating, and we lost... I think Gidley can still feel Kylies shoulder on his nose.
Saying that the 2011 Warrington playoff was in my opinion the ultimate game. One minute we're dead and buried the next we're in the lead and defending the line time after time. Immense. We would have had no shame in losing and still would have enjoyed it as much. Would love that against Cas in the final.
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| Win or Lose I would love to see a Leeds v Cas CC Final
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"One of my favourite ever games of rugby was Bradford 19 - 18 Leeds in 99 at odsal. Withers drop goal.'"
Did you watch it at home on the sofa 
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| I could enjoy a Grand Final that we lost if it was a good game. I can always enjoy a league game or a play-off match even if we lose.
I quite enjoyed some of our CC finals (2003 and 2005 in particular) as spectacles.
I think I might be out of capacity for enjoying losing CC finals now though. Novelty has worn off, and while I'd love to win a modern classic, I'd take a scruffy win, a lucky win even. I just want a win. Both sides with 2% completion rates leading to a 1-0 win from a 13th minute drop goal that went over after ricocheting off Ben Westwood's a**e? It'll do for me. 98-0 uncompeitive blow out? Sure, why not.
Of course my ideal would be to be 41-0 down with 20 minutes left after being horrendously unlucky with 15 or so terrible refereeing decisions, only to come back with 7 tries in the last 15 minutes, the last being converted on the final hooter by Sir Kev from the right touch line for a 42-41 win.
Plenty of time to be a purist later.
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