No you lost because we were the better team on the night.

No disrespect to you at all, but I get sick of hearing that one. Had Huddersfield won by a bigger margin last night, we would have been 3rd. Had Cas beaten Wakey, and the Huddersfield thing happend we would have been 4th.

I doubt people saying we are second in league so no problem, would have quite the same opinion had that been the case.

How many people tipped Huddersfield to be challenging for a top two place at start of season? If you didn't then you should be concerned.

Clearly wrong in whose opinion, yours? What players can do is not infringe, unless what you are actually saying is that the referee is inventing penalties against Leeds? Leeds conceded a total of four penalties for offside over the 80 minutes, not all from line infringements IIRC. In addition there were another eight conceded including the cardinal sin of one for dissent. Why not analyse them as well and see if you can see any merit in those?



Semantics. Clarke couldn't see any justification for penalising Bradford for offside in exactly the same way as you're doing here.

I am not arguing with the others I am arguing with a spefiic incident which was wrong, when looking at the Leeds for and against penalties. I further pointed out that the same thing happend twice in the Hull KR game. Have you watched a rerun of the game? because if you haven't I invite you to watch that specific incident about 4 minutes into the second half. You clearly see where the play the ball is, and where Leeds are lined up by the lines on the pitch. Then feel free to comment.

No semantics at all. What Clarke said was poop. The majority of offside decisions you see given where it is the 10 metre defensive line, the person pulled for offside does not actually make the tackle or interfere with the play. That is a completely different scenario to pulling something offside for not 10 when on replay they are clearly 12 metres.

If we’d won last night we wouldn't be debating this point, if Smith had a pair of kahonies and didn’t have to go to the screen for every decision we would have won and if my aunt had a cock she’d be my uncle.

‘Ifs’ don’t make your league position points do.

If we were Bradford I’d have both hands on firmly on the panic button, plunging up and down for all I was worth but we’re not.

We are in second position – no worries, when we get to forth or fifth then maybe an eyebrow should be raised but until then – nothing to worry about.

But the statements that everything will be Saints and Leeds for the cups then is a bag of b0ll0x? Certainly in Leeds case, because we can hardly be desribed as dominant on the other teams?

I'd worry that an -what many leeds fans would consider- inferior team's forwards dominated the game and bullied you, resulting in many errors and ultimately limiting your attack.

We’ll that’s the difference between us – I believe that our dip in form is temporary and nothing to get concerned about, you seem to be a little more techy than I and a bit of a Willy Worrier.

I'm not worrying at the moment, things can only get better for us really, after our recent run.

Staying with the original of the thread, you dont seriously believe that your run of bad performances has come to an end do you?

Bradford were rank last night, make no mistake about it, but they were better than Leeds. Hence the complaints about Leeds.

Leeds have gone backwards this year at an alarming rate under McClennan

But at least the players like him.

There were positives from our performance, I think it will give us the confidence to improve in performances and results. Whilst neither team were excellent in attack, I believe defence wise we both did pretty well and Bradford should be able to kick on from this. A win against the back-to-back champions would put confidence in any side.

Yes.......and werent you calling for him to go?

You were 10 times better in the first half against Catalans. And twenty times better for 70 minutes of the game against Cas. I saw both.

That back to back champions you talk of were a distant memory on that performance last night.

I seriously wonder what this style of play is? One up rugby doesn't work any more ask the Bulls. Do you seriously think any team can become unbeatable? Sheer believist madness. What on earth is " instead gratification success" ??