Knock yourself out flower.

Sometimes I have to call it as I see it.

winter rugby thinking.....

seems to me Bluey has concentrated on getting the Defence right and letting the Attack follow.

We wouldnt want to peak too soon would we.

Oh well my opinion, your opinion. I shall maintain my dignity and not resort to name calling just because of a point of veiw.

I actually don't think our defence has been great. Sure, we have scrambled well and put in the usual big hits down field and shown we can muscle up on our line, but the best way to stop the opposition scoring points is to keep the ball away from them. Discipline and ball control have gifted overwhelming possesion to most of our opponents for long periods this year already - something we were guilty of last year as well. We haven't scored as many as we could because we haven't been able to maintain pressure. When we do this and we control the ball and hold discipline we are the best team in the competition (two GF's show what can happen when we do this). We relied on awesome scrambling last year to cover up for at times poor ball control and some ordinary tactics on tackle 5. When we picked up injuries we got found out and it cost us the league leaders shield and the CC.
We are not particularly patient at the moment on attack. When Webb gets back and we have two fresh hookers to rotate I think the better attack will lead to better defence and more posession.
But discipline has to improve - it was not great last year either - but when we get it right we are awesome.

If we were playing free flowing rugby without two or three key pivot players then I would have to worry for the rest of super league when Burrow, Buderus and webb do come back and have a few games under their belts. We are still missing a good few players, and still picking up points.

I do think we are impatient and lack structure in attack though sometimes.

On the centre issue I feel I am banging my head against a wall of tedness.

3 titles in 5 years built from a squad of home grown players. So large proportions of people on here still want to go out and buy a new centre, with very few suggestions as to who would fit the bill.

The team is good enough to carry a youngster or two. If they make mistakes then over the course of the season we can deal with that. we may lose the odd try or game through mistakes, but from what I have seen of watkins, we have one hell of a player on our hands. Lets develop him. If it causes us problems we have Gibson to fill in, and smith and ABlett. And we may end up without a trophy, but who is to say we would win it anyway. We could sign a Lyon, or someone similar, and he could snap his cruciates in his first game, and we're back at square one, with a massive hole in our salary cap.

You're right. I am sorry.

I should try and be a bigger man.([sizego on Soprano, you know you want to. Make a joke)[/size
I will try harder next time.

You sir have renewed my faith that we have amongst us one or two knowledgeable posters.

Well said. Spot on.

Look I do agree with most of what your saying - your post with regards to the losses from the squad i do agree with - all I said was in my opinion we are a tad short at present. I didn't think I deserved to be called a fekkin moron for saying that - thought it was a bit harsh mate.

I'm a very proud Leeds supporter and have been for over 25 years. I am proud of what we have achieved and the young talent we bring through into the game which a lot of clubs not just Leeds have benefitted from. Long may it continue - I was never knocking this.

Who? Me? Never?

And don't go booking tickets for the Saints cup match if it is on the saturday.

Shame it wasn't at Saints, we could've done both.