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| Jeez calm down everyone. Yes it was a bad performance and result but these happen during a long season. We arent in a bad position and we lost games like this during successful campaigns.
Weve seen it all before and theres a long long way to go yet. When the trophies are handed out we will be there or thereabouts. We are only halfway thru the year.
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| This result was 10x worst than the Cas away one.
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| 3rd defeat of the Year to the Team sitting bottom & still only 16 players used on a short turnaround.
At what point do you actually question the player management at the club not only on a welfare front but also utilising the whole squad?
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| With hull playing Wigan this weekend, and Salford playing Wakefield. A win vs Leigh would be a good two points picked up. Could be an interesting weekend at the top end of the table.
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| Quote: tad rhino "
yet again that bumbling idiot McDermott messed it up'"
F you, what's the need for personal insults.
Would love to see you say that to his face if you believe it.
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| Quote: LeedsDave "F you, what's the need for personal insults.
Would love to see you say that to his face if you believe it.'"
Brian doesn't like being criticised he gets very aggressive - have a look at some of his press conferences when the use of the bench is questioned ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote: LeedsDave "F you, what's the need for personal insults.
Would love to see you say that to his face if you believe it.'"
like your personal insult? he's so arrogant it would go over his head
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| Quote: son of headingley "Just what is the point of Widnes?'"
Absolutely priceless. You've got no god given right to win any game in SL if you turn up with players that look as fit me! Ferres made Gil Dudson look like an Ethiopian long distance runner!
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| not only were 2 big points dropped but flogging the team could cause issues in the next few games. makes Friday harder
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| Team turned up with a poor attitude, AGAIN, they think they are better than they really are and just have to turn up to beat teams near the bottom of the league. Defeats against Huddersfield and Widnes will keep this team out of the top 4 by the end of the season. Their attitude stinks, still cost me £50 plus petrol to watch the game wish they would publish "We can't be d this week" then I could save some cash.
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| After the Wire matches comments not just here but elsewhere were very positive n rightly so...Consensus seems to be that it was one of the best team performances since the treble winning side. Defence was rock solid especially in the first half. Yeah Wire were not at their best but Leeds put untold pressure on them to add to their woes forcing them not only to make more errors but sap the life out of them . So much so they didn't even bother to protest at decisions. If they knocked on..normally you might go no not me...as with Atkins...yeah n give up. In attack Leeds were fast ,playing beautiful rugby..everything seemed to gel...the players were working for each other, they looked relaxed even show boating..It was wonderful to watch. However there was no comments on tactics or praise for Mac that he had got things right.
Don't get me wrong I am hacked off by the loss to Widnes, I agree that his use of the bench was baffling...If you go back before the CC match when the Bradford 4 loan was announced I felt it wrong because the number of fixtures would take their toll...CC, MW..Wire, Widnes n Leigh...( mind that nothing compared to fixtures in Lewis Jones day) ..Mind even Mac at the time said it was a huge gamble to take...but he pointed out if we had kept them..they were not used until one match..then they would not be able to cope...Was the Bradford alone something he really wanted or more GH's as he is keen on seeing Bradford survive.
Back to Widnes match...yes use of the bench was maybe not the best ..but I am not Mac so don't know his reasons...The players out their on pitch need to take responsibility...after the loss to Giants when team were trying to play expansive rugby in wet conditions. Mac eluded to the fact that that was not what was coached...he doesn't tell them to make the errors or give away needless penalties..especially against a new ref who you don't know how he going to judge it...in 1st half he called up Burrow to put them on a team warning...Mac can advise at half time this is what we need to do...( though at that point we were still in the lead if marginally) once they took to the pitch it was down to them...as Roy Francis use to say when his teams floundered..you dug the hole ..now you get out of it...yes they might have been tired but then they should play it simple do basics to get win...the defence which was strong on Friday was ragged..they created the gaps needlessly that allowed Widnes to score...you could see them coming.
It possible that Leeds team put too much effort into win over Wire that they sapped their own strength...but then other teams are in the same boat...Ok Cas does not have many injured but don't think they rested any players in all matches...so still say it down to players as well...
For the record ( ok I know they wouldn't blame Mac for tactics.) but they are first to acknowledge they screwed up..they made the errors ,where not sharp enough or did not execute the game plan...yet fans are quick to shove the blame on Mac?
We have a lifeline....we are still 3rd !!!!!! which is far better than any pundit or fan predicted pre season...as someone else said the 2015 team lost matches they should have won....they also won matches which were not always the most scintillating to watch. June is fast approaching..which means the loan deal is coming to an end...asides CS who would probably benefit from another spell the rest can be brought back. Still a long way to go tis seasons end.
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| Quote: tad rhino "you said you weren't bothered about losing. it should have been 2 easy points.
should we finish 5th and miss out by 2 points then this game will have been critical.
given hull and wigan lost, and our upcoming games, it was a chance to open up a gap.
yet again that bumbling idiot McDermott messed it up'"
I never said I wasn't bothered about the loss. Nowhere did I use those words. The loss irritated me, but there's no point getting too upset when we are still 3rd.
I now remember why I only come on here occasionally now ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote: TheSnowmonkey "If you go back before the CC match when the Bradford 4 loan was announced I felt it wrong because the number of fixtures would take their toll...CC, MW..Wire, Widnes n Leigh...( mind that nothing compared to fixtures in Lewis Jones day) ..Mind even Mac at the time said it was a huge gamble to take...but he pointed out if we had kept them..they were not used until one match..then they would not be able to cope...Was the Bradford alone something he really wanted or more GH's as he is keen on seeing Bradford survive.'"
I think the Bradford loans have to be more on GH's shoulders. The likes of Oledzki and Smith could've gone on DR to Fev, they'd have definitely taken the former and probably would've given the latter a try too.
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| Coaches generally get too much credit when things are going well, and too much criticism when they are not...
At Leeds it seems to be the players that are responsible when we win, and the coach is responsible when we lose.
I'm not the biggest fan of BMD, but he does come in for some unfair criticism at times.
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| One thing I will point out is that we haven't had back to back defeats yet this season (famous last words) so they have shown by hook or by crook that they can come out in response to a lost and find a way to win. Seen a few other teams this year turn 1 disappointing loss into 3/4 losses on the trot.
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