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Quote: Andy Gilder "You were doing reasonably well up to that point.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the RFL. Why should it? Explain to me exactly how it is "bringing the game into disrepute".

It's someone within the game expressing an opinion on something else within the game. If you're not allowed to do that, then you may as well ban current players and coaches from going on things like the Super League Show, because they won't be able to say anything negative.

I would suspect some people on this thread are allowing their own antipathy towards McDermott as a coach and a person to cloud their judgement on this issue and turning it into another excuse to have a dig.'"


Totally agree.

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Quote: Gotcha "I agree with this. To add also there is posters here who moaned about Wane previously for making comments that shouldn't concern him, yet here we are when MCDermott it is all ok. Or even threads raised about Cunningham, yet doesn't matter when one of our own.'"


Not comparable incidents are they.

Quote: Gotcha "For me he didn't have the right to say what he had, especially when not pushed to do so, and neither should any other coach. They should stick to what they are paid to do.'"


They are paid/asked/expected to do the post match interviews. He's given an answer to the question about the margin of the scoreline which he's allowed to do.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "I would suspect some people on this thread are allowing their own antipathy towards McDermott as a coach and a person to cloud their judgement on this issue and turning it into another excuse to have a dig.'"


More than likely.

If an opposition coach publicly criticised McDermott about his non-use of subs they'd probably say that was fine because it's a topic they have an issue with.

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while I think he is 100% right i'm not sure it's his place to say it.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "You were doing reasonably well up to that point.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the RFL. Why should it? Explain to me exactly how it is "bringing the game into disrepute".

It's someone within the game expressing an opinion on something else within the game. If you're not allowed to do that, then you may as well ban current players and coaches from going on things like the Super League Show, because they won't be able to say anything negative.

I would suspect some people on this thread are allowing their own antipathy towards McDermott as a coach and a person to cloud their judgement on this issue and turning it into another excuse to have a dig.'"



I disagree, he has created a public spat for absolutely no reason. If it was his own club commenting on, then all fair, but not something else in the game that does not concern him.

I don't agree with your last statement, as I also felt very strongly on Wane commenting on other clubs too. For me it is not something coaches should be doing.

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And fair enough, it's not something you like coaches doing. But in no way does it merit censure from the RFL.

There have been much worse things said by people in the game that need attention this weekend, particularly over the Channel.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "You were doing reasonably well up to that point.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the RFL. Why should it? Explain to me exactly how it is "bringing the game into disrepute".

It's someone within the game expressing an opinion on something else within the game. If you're not allowed to do that, then you may as well ban current players and coaches from going on things like the Super League Show, because they won't be able to say anything negative.

I would suspect some people on this thread are allowing their own antipathy towards McDermott as a coach and a person to cloud their judgement on this issue and turning it into another excuse to have a dig.'"


Spot on.

The anti-Mac brigade are so transparent. They have had to pipe down for much of the season because we are top of the league and playing attractive rugby and even though they now agree with what he says they have to have a go because he had the bottle to speak out icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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I agree entirely with what Mac said. I accept he is entitled to say it.

I vehemently believe he shouldn't have said it.

If his motive really was to offer some support for Salford's payers then

1. It isn't his job to boost the moral of opposition players
2. Have a chat with them post game whilst they're having a feed.

His role is to coach Leeds and further our interests. How does this do that? When speaking to the press his role is to further the interests of the game. How did this do that?

If this were Shaun Wane sticking the boot into the owner of another team posters on here would be apoplectic.

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Quote: Gotcha "I disagree, he has created a public spat for absolutely no reason. If it was his own club commenting on, then all fair, but not something else in the game that does not concern him..'"


To suggest that the not so good Doctor, who makes his own critical views public at the drop of a hat, should have special sub-judice rights is not logical even for you. If you think this does not concern Mac then listen again to the interview. He really is concerned that a set of players, whom he rates, becoming so demoralised that they conceded 70 points after being asked if he was disappointed that he didn't get a closer game. Why shouldn't a coach be concerned for the players and his fellow coaches. Why shouldn't he be concerned that the public were short changed?

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There is not one single positive for the Leeds club from McDermott speaking about another clubs owner in this manner.

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Quote: G1 "I agree entirely with what Mac said. I accept he is entitled to say it.

I vehemently believe he shouldn't have said it.

If his motive really was to offer some support for Salford's payers then

1. It isn't his job to boost the moral of opposition players
2. Have a chat with them post game whilst they're having a feed.

His role is to coach Leeds and further our interests. How does this do that? When speaking to the press his role is to further the interests of the game. How did this do that?

If this were Shaun Wane sticking the boot into the owner of another team posters on here would be apoplectic.'"

exactly this. I like McDermott, I think he has done a great job here.

But how does this help us at all? Its nothing to do with us, best to stay out of it, no benefit.

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Quote: Maverick Rhino "There is not one single positive for the Leeds club.'"


Quote: Maverick Rhino "But how does this help us at all?..........no benefit.'"


Why does everything he talks about need to be a positive, benefit or help to Leeds?

I could understand if what he said could turn out to be a negative or harm the club, but this won't, it won't effect the Leeds club at all.....all it'll do it make the Doctor sulk, hardly a worry.

I see guys on the SLS or studio guests at live matches (Peacock in particular) every week discussing other clubs. The opinions they give are of no benefit to their club so should we cry foul of them appearing?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Why does everything he talks about need to be a positive, benefit or help to Leeds?

I could understand if what he said could turn out to be a negative or harm the club, but this won't, it won't effect the Leeds club at all.....all it'll do it make the Doctor sulk, hardly a worry.

I see guys on the SLS or studio guests at live matches (Peacock in particular) every week discussing other clubs. The opinions they give are of no benefit to their club so should we cry foul of them appearing?'"



It will effect relations between Leeds and Salford, that would be a negative. On the other side there is no benefit at all.

He gets wound up in interviews anyway, this will just give more ammunition for interviewers to test him. Another negative.

It just didn't need to be said, that's all.

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If it's damaging the game, then McD has every right to stand up and speak, it shouldn't matter if it benefits Leeds.

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Quote: Gotcha "It will effect relations between Leeds and Salford, that would be a negative.'"


Why? Were we planning on re-signing Darryl Griffin? Our future relationship with Salford whilst the Doctor is running the soap opera over there.....that's not a problem at all.

Quote: Gotcha "He gets wound up in interviews anyway, this will just give more ammunition for interviewers to test him. Another negative.'"


He does get wound up at times in interviews I agree, he however wasn't wound up this time. He's very calm when he says it, just an honest opinion not from being tested or rattled.

Quote: Gotcha "It just didn't need to be said, that's all.'"


Agreed he doesn't NEED to say it......but he doesn't NEED to avoid saying it either.

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