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Have Leeds issued a 19 for this game?
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Sal - strongest 19 available:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23798.php#.VBLffvldVLE
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Juan - Warrington players have their personal unique club number above the club crest, Wigan's are displayed on the sleeve. These are the numbers to which I referred. Leeds were the first SL club to try this but opted to follow a ten appearance rule (why ?) and now don't bother at all. For a club with Leeds' long and proud history I find this an embarrassing situation but perhaps that's just me.
I have no difficulty in acknowledging stats if necessary. I used to maintain a thread on here devoted to doing nothing much else but unfortunately other commitments have seen it lapse.
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Sal - strongest 19 available:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23798.php#.VBLffvldVLE
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Juan - Warrington players have their personal unique club number above the club crest, Wigan's are displayed on the sleeve. These are the numbers to which I referred. Leeds were the first SL club to try this but opted to follow a ten appearance rule (why ?) and now don't bother at all. For a club with Leeds' long and proud history I find this an embarrassing situation but perhaps that's just me.
I have no difficulty in acknowledging stats if necessary. I used to maintain a thread on here devoted to doing nothing much else but unfortunately other commitments have seen it lapse.
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Rugby League in general is distinctly lacking when it comes to the preservation of stats and historical records. Some of the best work has always been compiled independently by supporters themselves... Wigan and St Helens supporters providing two of the best independent online resources on their clubs. The Leeds club has been particularly poor at maintaining its historical record and... Ken Dalby aside... the supporter base hasn't produced anyone enthusiastic enough to do the job instead.
Apart from annual editions of the excellent Rothmans RL Yearbooks from 1981/82 until 1999, there's been hardly anything else worthy of note.
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Rugby League in general is distinctly lacking when it comes to the preservation of stats and historical records. Some of the best work has always been compiled independently by supporters themselves... Wigan and St Helens supporters providing two of the best independent online resources on their clubs. The Leeds club has been particularly poor at maintaining its historical record and... Ken Dalby aside... the supporter base hasn't produced anyone enthusiastic enough to do the job instead.
Apart from annual editions of the excellent Rothmans RL Yearbooks from 1981/82 until 1999, there's been hardly anything else worthy of note.'"
Agree with this. It's very difficult to find stats and records.
RL Project are making a valiant effort but there should be some kind of governing body approach to it, be it national or international.
I don't know what the situation is like for other sports but I'm often annoyed by the lack of available info on RL and it's history. |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"Sal - strongest 19 available:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23798.php#.VBLffvldVLE
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Juan - Warrington players have their personal unique club number above the club crest, Wigan's are displayed on the sleeve. These are the numbers to which I referred. Leeds were the first SL club to try this but opted to follow a ten appearance rule (why ?) and now don't bother at all. For a club with Leeds' long and proud history I find this an embarrassing situation but perhaps that's just me.
I have no difficulty in acknowledging stats if necessary. I used to maintain a thread on here devoted to doing nothing much else but unfortunately other commitments have seen it lapse.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=341569'"
I noticed Wigan's numbers last night.I had already seen on Boots n all about Warrington doing this last year and thought it was a great idea.Should be something that is brought in at all clubs imo. |
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Juan - Warrington players have their personal unique club number above the club crest, Wigan's are displayed on the sleeve. These are the numbers to which I referred. Leeds were the first SL club to try this but opted to follow a ten appearance rule (why ?) and now don't bother at all. For a club with Leeds' long and proud history I find this an embarrassing situation but perhaps that's just me.
I have no difficulty in acknowledging stats if necessary. I used to maintain a thread on here devoted to doing nothing much else but unfortunately other commitments have seen it lapse.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=341569'"
I noticed Wigan's numbers last night.I had already seen on Boots n all about Warrington doing this last year and thought it was a great idea.Should be something that is brought in at all clubs imo. | |
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"I noticed Wigan's numbers last night.I had already seen on Boots n all about Warrington doing this last year and thought it was a great idea.Should be something that is brought in at all clubs imo.'"
I'm not totally sure what you are all on about with the numbers. If I understand / assume right are you meaning that each player gets a number in terms of being 'player number x' to have ever played for the team?
So like if Leeds did it, Sinners might have #126 on his, Kylie like #806, whereas Robbie Ward will have #3714 as he is more recent*. Is that what you are on about?
nb. * = To the pedants, I know these numbers are way off, I am just being a bit tongue-in-cheek about how long Sinners has been around for. |
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But why do you deem it necessary to only acknowledge Brian McDermott's negative stats? Never a mention of his achievement as our most successful coach ever! |
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| Quote Jamie101="Jamie101"I'm not totally sure what you are all on about with the numbers. If I understand / assume right are you meaning that each player gets a number in terms of being 'player number x' to have ever played for the team?
So like if Leeds did it, Sinners might have #126 on his, Kylie like #806, whereas Robbie Ward will have #3714 as he is more recent*. Is that what you are on about?
nb. * = To the pedants, I know these numbers are way off, I am just being a bit tongue-in-cheek about how long Sinners has been around for.'"
that is correct.
It's Something that has been used in the Cricket for a while. |
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Quote Jamie101="Jamie101"I'm not totally sure what you are all on about with the numbers. If I understand / assume right are you meaning that each player gets a number in terms of being 'player number x' to have ever played for the team?'"
Correct. Can't say I'm sure of the basis for each club but for example this is the stated criteria for the Warrington club - =#0000BFThe players have been placed in chronological order, starting with the 15 Wirepullers who took to the field against Hunslet for their first match under Northern Union rules, in September 1895 - here www.wire2wolves.com/wolfbites.ph ... se_level=2
Quote Jamie101="Jamie101"So like if Leeds did it, Sinners might have #126 on his, Kylie like #806, whereas Robbie Ward will have #3714 as he is more recent*. Is that what you are on about?
nb. * = To the pedants, I know these numbers are way off, I am just being a bit tongue-in-cheek about how long Sinners has been around for.'"
Leeds actually (if memory serves) got in there first but made such an half-baked attempt (10 appearance requirement) - it simply faded away. I've maintained a list on that same basis (latest entrant - number 742 Paul Aiton) but the Warrington and Wigan clubs now are into four figure numbers which indicates how many Leeds players have potentially missed out.
Another indicator is the number of Leeds players with less than ten appearances to their name since the start of SL. In total Leeds have used 170 - 32 of these never made the required ten appearances and are no longer at the club, a further 12 have debuted but are still to reach the qualifying mark. All 42 presumably would already have earned a number had they been at Warrington. |
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Quote Jamie101="Jamie101"I'm not totally sure what you are all on about with the numbers. If I understand / assume right are you meaning that each player gets a number in terms of being 'player number x' to have ever played for the team?'"
Correct. Can't say I'm sure of the basis for each club but for example this is the stated criteria for the Warrington club - =#0000BFThe players have been placed in chronological order, starting with the 15 Wirepullers who took to the field against Hunslet for their first match under Northern Union rules, in September 1895 - here www.wire2wolves.com/wolfbites.ph ... se_level=2
Quote Jamie101="Jamie101"So like if Leeds did it, Sinners might have #126 on his, Kylie like #806, whereas Robbie Ward will have #3714 as he is more recent*. Is that what you are on about?
nb. * = To the pedants, I know these numbers are way off, I am just being a bit tongue-in-cheek about how long Sinners has been around for.'"
Leeds actually (if memory serves) got in there first but made such an half-baked attempt (10 appearance requirement) - it simply faded away. I've maintained a list on that same basis (latest entrant - number 742 Paul Aiton) but the Warrington and Wigan clubs now are into four figure numbers which indicates how many Leeds players have potentially missed out.
Another indicator is the number of Leeds players with less than ten appearances to their name since the start of SL. In total Leeds have used 170 - 32 of these never made the required ten appearances and are no longer at the club, a further 12 have debuted but are still to reach the qualifying mark. All 42 presumably would already have earned a number had they been at Warrington. | |
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"But why do you deem it necessary to only acknowledge Brian McDermott's negative stats? Never a mention of his achievement as our most successful coach ever!'"
I weren't aware that I did/do anymore or any less than for any previous Leeds coach for which I have the figures.
Most successful by which measure?
Roy Francis IMO was a genius who transformed RL in this country. The success he brought to Headingley wasn't achieved overnight on the back of proven players but his legacy endured long after he'd gone. |
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"I weren't aware that I did/do anymore or any less than for any previous Leeds coach for which I have the figures.'"
Then you won't mind providing links to show where you recorded his winning achievements then.
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You claim to collect and record stats and records. So the most important measure is which Leeds coach is the most successful in terms of Championships and Challenge Cups ? What other coach has a better record? what other coach has an equal record?
Quote tvoc="tvoc"Roy Francis IMO was a genius who transformed RL in this country. The success he brought to Headingley wasn't achieved overnight on the back of proven players but his legacy endured long after he'd gone.'"
I have already said that I rated Roy Francis highly and he was also successful but didn't achieve the championships that Mac has achieved. Big Mac inherited a proven squad but the senior players were past their best days, days which Smith and Bluey enjoyed. |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"Correct. Can't say I'm sure of the basis for each club but for example this is the stated criteria for the Warrington club - =#0000BFThe players have been placed in chronological order, starting with the 15 Wirepullers who took to the field against Hunslet for their first match under Northern Union rules, in September 1895 - here www.wire2wolves.com/wolfbites.ph ... se_level=2
Leeds actually (if memory serves) got in there first but made such an half-baked attempt (10 appearance requirement) - it simply faded away. I've maintained a list on that same basis (latest entrant - number 742 Paul Aiton) but the Warrington and Wigan clubs now are into four figure numbers which indicates how many Leeds players have potentially missed out.
Another indicator is the number of Leeds players with less than ten appearances to their name since the start of SL. In total Leeds have used 170 - 32 of these never made the required ten appearances and are no longer at the club, a further 12 have debuted but are still to reach the qualifying mark. All 42 presumably would already have earned a number had they been at Warrington.'"
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"Correct. Can't say I'm sure of the basis for each club but for example this is the stated criteria for the Warrington club - =#0000BFThe players have been placed in chronological order, starting with the 15 Wirepullers who took to the field against Hunslet for their first match under Northern Union rules, in September 1895 - here www.wire2wolves.com/wolfbites.ph ... se_level=2
Leeds actually (if memory serves) got in there first but made such an half-baked attempt (10 appearance requirement) - it simply faded away. I've maintained a list on that same basis (latest entrant - number 742 Paul Aiton) but the Warrington and Wigan clubs now are into four figure numbers which indicates how many Leeds players have potentially missed out.
Another indicator is the number of Leeds players with less than ten appearances to their name since the start of SL. In total Leeds have used 170 - 32 of these never made the required ten appearances and are no longer at the club, a further 12 have debuted but are still to reach the qualifying mark. All 42 presumably would already have earned a number had they been at Warrington.'"
Ah ok, thanks. Good effort sir! | |
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