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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Gotcha "That's just a head up @rse type of response. Easy to say for someone without the talent to be in that position. I suspect would be different view had you been in same.
I am quite sure were you picked up for something at work, and received a reprimand, that your attitude would be different had your work collegue done the same thing and received a slap on the back.
But easy to comment until it happens to you.'"
You haven't been kicked out of, sorry left, a world cup squad yet you feel entitled to give your opinion, which is no more or less valid than Hims.
FWIW I don't believe a word you say about Zak's attitude but even if you're right you do him no favours at all. If that is the case then, great player though he is, he shouldn't let the door bang him on his petulant 'arris on the way out. The great thing about this great club is that there will be another, just as there was when Zak himself was given the privilege of replacing the legendary Brent Webb, a player that had accomplished far more domestically and internationally than Zak has done yet.
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: Gotcha "He was the only Leeds player not sent home from the squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end.'"
My eyes can't actually believe they've read this.
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| I don't know how you can make any call defending Hardaker. He broke camp rules during the World Cup - the biggest RL event in England in years. He and his fellow idiots were almost the only bad publicity from the event. Oddly enough a lot of fans seemed to somehow want to blame McNamara, instead of the halfwits who actually misbehaved.
G1's second para sums it up as far as Hardaker's concerned.
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| Missed that bit. The rest were 'sent home at the end' - priceless. Wasn't that because the World Cup was over? Does that mean that if the England management hadn't 'sent them home' all the England players would still be in camp somewhere with McNamara?
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| Interested in how gotcha claims to know hardakers inner feelings and misgivings reagrding the club and the disciplinary.
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| Quote: Gotcha "He was the only Leeds player not sent home from the squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end. '"
Lol. Just lol.
Quote: Gotcha "You are still showing a clear position of not living in the real world. I am not sure you actually know what the problem was, and are probably convincing yourself of your own version. '"
According to Hardaker, the problem was he went out for some drinks after not being selected for an England game. He thought himself to then be outside the camp and so the "in-camp" no drinking rule didn't apply to him. McNamara thought it did.
In the "real world" I would have managed to refrain from drinking for the whole tournament. A time-period of what? A month? 6 weeks? I manage that quite easily anyway never mind without the added focus of representing my country in the biggest competition in my chosen career.
Quote: Gotcha "Just to be clear here, from what he said, Zak never complained or had any issue with Leeds position on fining him and laying down the law as they did. What he had an issue with was the involvement of McDermott in increasing this by stopping him from having the season break, and making him cancel his holiday, whilst at the same time a couple of players showed behaviour that was far worse than Zak's situation, and were not taken to task on it. '"
Which players and what behaviour? Were they representing their country at the time? If not then it's not the same situation is it?
Again, a young lad who's done something wrong shouldn't be getting annoyed at the club punishing him. A £2.5k fine and a missed holiday isn't the end of the world.
Quote: Gotcha "In all fairness to McDermott here, he has learnt a lot from his mistakes of last year, and changed completely this with things. Possibly he may also have built bridges with Zak also since Christmas, and would do things differently now given the chance. And maybe they can get Zak back round a table to try and get a new contract. I personally desperately hope for that, but I doubt despite his desire to play for Leeds, that he will put that grudge aside. It would be Leeds and it's fans loss though.'"
Ahhh. The backtracking begins. Now you've successfully covered all bases here haven't you.
If he holds a grudge then he can go, I don't care how good he is. If as I suspect, he doesn't hold a grudge at all and is relishing the opportunity to show his commitment, that he just made a silly mistake and that he's better than that, then fantastic and long may he stay at Leeds.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Missed that bit. The rest were 'sent home at the end' - priceless. Wasn't that because the World Cup was over? Does that mean that if the England management hadn't 'sent them home' all the England players would still be in camp somewhere with McNamara?'"
Well of course that was what it meant, it was a tongue in cheek comment to demonstrate the spinning of a line. They were all sent home. The question was which other Leeds player was sent home.
It really doesn't surprise me on the posters coming up with this holier than though,arrogant rubbish. It really is simpler than that.
And I repeat yet again, there was a fine and a warning which Hardaker accepted. Which no doubt others also would. The discipline was stretched further though than it should have been, and that was where the beef is. I can not believe that Him is seriously asking what other players, when he knows very well whom, considering the number of posts about it over last six months.
At the end of the day there is only one winner here, Hardaker, and one loser Leeds, I just hope the fans don't lose out. Last year when they were in talks it would have been at xx amount, then those talks were called off at Hardakers request due to what happened. Since then his stock has gone up and up. Therefore, he either leaves and the club and fans lose out, or the club manage to get him back round the table and get him to sign a new deal. However, that deal is going to be far more than it was six months ago now. One loser.
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| After being kicked out of the england squad the very last thing Hardaker needed was a p**s up holiday, If the club made him get straight back in training then I applaud them.
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| Hardaker had his holiday when he went to South Africa with the England squad.
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| I hope Hardaker behaves professionally, I hope he stays with Leeds and I hope he stays at full-back and cements himself in that role both at club and International level.
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| Those players involved in the World Cup were given a later date to return to pre-season. Hardaker, for reasons of his own making, wasn't involved in the World Cup.
So why should he benefit from the extended break given to those who were? That's just common sense, isn't it?
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| I can't believe the poor lad's poured his heart out to Gotcha and now Gotcha has betrayed that close personal confidence by telling us all about it.
*shakes head sadly*
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| Quote: El Diablo "I can't believe the poor lad's poured his heart out to Gotcha and now Gotcha has betrayed that close personal confidence by telling us all about it.
*shakes head sadly*'"
Pour is heart out? I think you misunderstand.
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| Quote: Gotcha " you misunderstand.'"
A little willfully, it must be conceded.
I am not in one of my more serious-minded moods today.
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| Hardaker let himself and the club down badly with his chav behaviour during the World Cup. The club quite rightly disciplined him and the lad has responded well with much improved performances this season. Seems to me our coach Big Mac deserves some credit in all this as his handling of Hardaker has achieved a positive result - especially if he has also had to overcome the 'chip on shoulder' allegation in the Gospel according to Gotcha
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