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| Griffin got a head knock according to one of the Radio Leeds presenters.
As for not playing Ward, maybe the thinking was 2 games in 4 days was too much for him at this stage? Did the academy play today?
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| Quote: Glenn Quagmire "Griffin got a head knock according to one of the Radio Leeds presenters.
As for not playing Ward, maybe the thinking was 2 games in 4 days was too much for him at this stage? Did the academy play today?'"
Hmmm....that would of course not be too much for the rest of the 17
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Hmmm....that would of course not be too much for the rest of the 17'"
Were the rest of the squad 17 years old and still at school?
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| Not saying it is definitely the reason but it's plausible.
Hardly ideal to be asking a 17 year old to back up having only just made his debut.
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| Agreed. Especially when he's been in an underperforming team. Shame he missed out on being involved in a big win though. As for Smith, I think it's an excellent idea, and also I think it always helps to have somebody a bit smaller amongst your halfbacks - not necessarily a Burrow, but someone who can be quick on their feet. Playing two loose forward type players at halfback will generally slow things down too much in the middle - or at least remove the sort of threat a classic scrum half should have.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Quote: nantwichexile "He may have played half before but I cannot remember seeing him their before. He did ok. As someone pointed out he had a hand in a couple of tries in the 1st half also.
Kirke played ok today imo. He gets critisism on here every week. Sometimes it is deserved but at times it is unjustified.'"
Maybe so....but was he a better selection than Stevie Ward for example who today could have played LF (with Bailey in reserve on the bench) ?
Others can speak for themselves, but the puzzling thing (to me) is why does he continue to be selected, despite poor or indifferent performances, which is the usual expectation and result ?
If the club was genuinely short of options then it would be more understandable. However we have seen the departure of Lauititi and Amor (temporalily ?) to Wakefield and now Pitts to Hull....all of whom are surely better options. Additionally, look how long Singleton has had to wait to get a spot in the squad owing to Kirke still 'commanding' a place.
Is Kirke a better option than D.Smith ? Ambler ? .....and as already stated in today's match, Stevie Ward ? It continues to defy rational explanation IMHO.'"
Kirkes work with the ball is generally fairly limited. however he usually gives a good account for himself in defence. he not only makes a good number of tackles in relatively low minutes but he sldo gets involved as third man and slows the play the ball down.
as to why he's preferred to the various younger options I don't know. I would guess it'd because the coaches are happy with the job he's doing.
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| Quote: G1 "Burrow makes a huge difference and Ablett was immense.
Ryan Hall looked in need of a rest today, didn't he Gotcha? Guffaw.
Deardful 1st 20 mins, dreadful 1st ten mins of the 2nd half. Otherwise, just what the doctor ordered against dreadful opposition. Singleton looked willing in his cameo.'"
It was never a question of need a rest, but deserve a rest. But you knew that anyway, but like to play the Easter knobby.
As someone who's had enougth of Burrow, I thought he was superb yesterday. I am a big fan of Ablett but though Burrow was MOM.
Burrow, Ablet, Sinfield, Webb, and Kylie for me were the standout performers, and a nice cameo from Mcshane.
Hall's finishing was great, especially his last.
Smith was far better than given credit for, not surprising, although not to the level of the ones above.
I once again though our backrow was not good enougth, and you can add the loose to that this week.
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| Quote: Gotcha "
I once again though our backrow was not good enougth, and you can add the loose to that this week.'"
But which one? We noted Bailey, Smith, Webb and Sinfield packing down there at various points in the game.
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| Quote: gulfcoast_highwayman "But which one? We noted Bailey, Smith, Webb and Sinfield packing down there at various points in the game.'"
pedant. The one on the team sheet then.
I also forgot to add above, that personally I though Kirke had a decent game.
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| I thought Lee Smith had a decent game. Hung around and played some nice balls.
Was a poor game.
London with their early 10 minute hounding of us needed points on the board. Didn't happen. They moved the ball quite nicely, but there was no end product. They missed a few line-breakers and off-loaders to generate a second phase.
Thought their attitude was excellent to come back and have a go early doors in second half, but the same can be said about Leeds for putting them to bed.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Quote: Gotcha "But which one? We noted Bailey, Smith, Webb and Sinfield packing down there at various points in the game.'" just out of interest was Kirkes more second row or Top this week? It seems to me that his better performances seem to have Bernard either when given longer game time or played in second row.
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| Quote: Gotcha "It was never a question of need a rest, but deserve a rest. But you knew that anyway, but like to play the Easter knobby.
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Nice backtrack but we all knew what you were saying.
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| Quote: Glenn Quagmire "Not saying it is definitely the reason but it's plausible.
Hardly ideal to be asking a 17 year old to back up having only just made his debut.'"
You are right. I am sure the coaches were thinking of the lads welfare. He made 32 tackles against Bradford and 27 against Huddersfield which will have been a big step up for him. They maybe looking after Hood in the same way.
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| Maybe their using up Kirkes allocation of games now so when it comes to the business end of the season he will then be 'rested'
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| In one of the many scrums JP packed down in the hooker position with Webb in the 13 slot.
That alone tells you that we don't actually need scrums any more.
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