I’m not disputing the state of none heartlands RL or that Clubs in none traditional areas can’t offer a valid contribution to the sport – my beef is with the way the RFL have tried to hot house a Super League club in the most unlikely place in the whole country.

It’s like they took a poll and asked “where in the UK is the daftest place start a Super League Club” and some joker answered “South Wales” – “perfect” thought the senile old farts at Red Hall “…and to make it even more ridiculous we’ll base the club in a shi[size=100t[/sizehole of a town at a RU ground, and a really shabby one at that”

The Welsh experiment has failed, dramatically. I honestly believed that Celtic would fade into obscurity and end up being a distant memory, only being brought into conversation when validating the RFL’s ineptness. But I was wrong, it has only taken a couple of years before the club self-imploded in full view of the watching world.

These crass “ideas” the RFL continually force our great sport to endure only serve to embarrass it.

You reckon South Wales, venue for Challenge Cup finals and Millenium Magic events over the last few years, birthplace of so many legends of the 13-a-side code, was "the most unlikely place in the whole country" to put a SL club?

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're way off the mark with that statement IMO.

Agreed. The idea that Rl could work in Wales is now what has caused the failure. its trying to run before they can walk that has

Yep. Would much rather try to work in an RU area (that doesn't have the public school boy issues associated with a few RU areas) than an area that seems interested only in soccer.

Apart from the strong tradition of RU you haven't really mentioned anything that doesn't apply to a large number of the heartland clubs.

My mistake guys - You're all right, the experiment to expand the sport in South Wales worked a treat didn't it?

My Bad.

Maybe the sample period on "did it work" is a little too short at 2 seasons. IMO you can't decide if "it works" in anything less than 10 years.

New Pro RL clubs are like any start up business, it takes years to get it working properly. Oh and most start up businesses don't lose their staff to injuries with anything like the regularity of a sports club.

So why was the club hurriedly moved out of South Wales after such a short period of time?

..and you're right a new club needs time to grow and mature before it starts "working properly", so why was a brand new club shoe-horned into the sports top level competition before it had time to establish itself?

Why? ... because it was a stupid idea dreamed up by idiots.

Well, there is a pro club there and a good amateur set up. What are you measuring it on, and why are you regarding it as an experiment?

Maybe you can tell me why the Crusaders had to move from the hotbed of Rugby League that is South Wales then?

With such a deep pool of talent to recruit from and with such a massive interest in the game I really don’t understand it but you seem to have an insight into these matters so please do enlighten me.

Dunno. There is a pro RL team in South Wales still though.

Can you tell me why Castleford and Wakefield are both looking to move out of their town centres? Why Wigan moved out of Wigan town centre? Why St Helens are moving to Widnes? etc?

Anyway, again, how are you measuring the success of RL in Wales, and why do you regard it as an experiment?

Seriously...???

You're comparing the move of, for example, Wakefield from Belle Vue to Stanley (distance 4 miles) to a move from Bridgend to Wrexham (distance 160)..????

FFS get real.

To answer your question I’d measure the success of a SL club by its success. Doesn't the fact the club is in administration means that it hasn’t been successful?

…and if wasn’t a deluded RFL experiment then what the fekk was it?