Leeds/neutrals in the Wire end will notice a lot of drunken wire supporters just as Wire/neutral in the leeds end will have noticed a lot of drunken Leeds supporters. MOST of these drunken supporters will have been good natured out for a good day. All decent FANS will have deplored the actions of the mindless minority at the game and will hope that action can be taken against those involved. Didnt see it all so will make no comment about the incident itself but given the nature/location etc of the event Im sure there will be plenty of evidence as to waht happened. The one consistent that is coming our of both sides of the equation is that part of the problem was a mixture of fans and alcohol. Whilst I am fully in favour of mixing fans (had some great banter with other fans) personally alcohol at the game is not a necessity.

Here endeth my 2pennyworth. (30 year wire supporter even going back to wilderspool days , no tutu, no facepaint but shirt scarf flag cuddly toy accompanied by 3 members of family two of whom watched at wilderspool, one is a season ticker holders and had facepaint and one (aged 12) at her first game (and who actually commented that the fighters were pillocks)....if you wont withdraw the comment will you please acknowledge...as I have done here..... we aint all like that)

Absolutely well put. When we moved into the HJ in 2004 a lot of people who never went to wilderspool started to regularly attend matches. smoking monkey im sure you will agree that this is a good thing for RL. Im also sure you'll agree about the people who caused the trouble are scum, no matter which part of the country they are from.

Translation: Now that Wire are semi successful I'll pretend I've always supported them.

if i wanted to be a bandwagon chaser i would have gone and supported saints. Bought my wife a season ticket for the first time last year and after 6 defeats on the bounce she actually said that she wished i supported saints

(she's from the North East.). Coulda also followed wigan in the early 90's but warrington's my home and where my heart is. Believe what u will fella. Suppose you think im a man city fan too.

RE : bandwagon chasing ..

Is it acceptable for somebody to have a brother who once played for his home town , but has moved about a bit around (eg.)SL clubs , to switch allegiances as and when he switches clubs ?
I can undertand the 'supporting my brother' bit . But switching clubs when he does is surely not right .
Would it also be acceptable for the sibling to revert to supporting the home-town team when the brother eventually hangs up his boots ?

Yes, its nobody's business, its like frequenting a certain pub for a while and then switching to another, nothing more, any talk of "loyalty" and suchlike is just bullshoite, professional sporting clubs are commercial entities and exist to attract new customers and maintain existing ones, or at least they should if they had their eyes open and not just shuffle along year on year expecting everyone to just follow regardless.

i like going to warrington but always remember how they wrecked bramley's ground , wasn't that much to start with

Bramley's ground . The memories I have of that place begin when I was around 8 yrs old and we used to sneak in through a gap in the fence on the Daisy end , to my later memories of having an advertising hoarding behind the sticks at the same end and a membership card that allowed four people in .. The gents 'toilets' were very similar to those at Saints . Actually , the whole place wasn't that much worse than KR . I had my 18th birthday party in MacLaren Field bar .

why the name change from ls13

I went to the Leeds v Saints semi final at Huddersfield this year. the so called rival fans were scrapping in wetherspoons at 1.30pm. It was a proper punch up aswell, claret and all. Not having a go at Leeds but there seems to be a pattern forming!

was there any saints colours? I heard some huddersfield people collared a leeds fan in wetherspoons

from what i saw (and also my 5 mates who are Leeds fans) it was agroup of about ten, both Saints and Leeds. I didnt see who started it but nobody took a step back.