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Quote: Bullseye "As G1 states. Reilly took him on two tours down under and he played a major part in GB's improvement in the period 88-90. Anyone remember that 30m romp under the sticks in the 3rd test versus NZ in 1990?'"


IIRC played in every game on that 1990 tour, the only player to do so.

And that, for anyone who isn't old enough to remember, was when tours were proper tours, with midweek games inbetween the Test matches. Think it was something like 12 games in 6-7 weeks?

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Quote: Gotcha "Bradford have let go better players than Sykes in the last couple of years. He is far from cheap, if in comparison to others in the structure, and there is plenty of players in the Championship who would do a better job for you on cheaper wages, and English too.

So really I can't see any argument for why any club with ambitions for success would utilize a player as average as Sykes as one of it's main players. Of course that is assuming that the Bulls have any ambition.

Of course though, a Bradord fan will have seen far more of him to judge than any of us. I can only go on what we see from the media, or matches involving Leeds.'"


Which backs have we let go since 2008 that are better than Sykes? Our outgoing players of any note were Jeffries, Tupou and Tadulala. Of those Jeffries was as infuriating and as inconsistent as Sykes at his worst. Tadulala was an out an out winger so doesn't bear comparison and Tupou? Well I don't even need to go into that one.

I'm interested in where you think Sykes comes in the Bulls wage structure. Given that it's pure speculation I'd say he's one of our higher earners in the backs but I doubt he's on a fortune. I'd say you know about as much as me on this point.

The Bulls are currently coping with a very difficult financial situation. Last I heard we were spending well below the cap (amongst the four lowest spenders in SL). It's not a case of lacking ambition, rather a case of spending what we can afford so that means we can't compete for top players. Given that situation it's obvious why Sykes was re-signed.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "IIRC played in every game on that 1990 tour, the only player to do so.

And that, for anyone who isn't old enough to remember, was when tours were proper tours, with midweek games inbetween the Test matches. Think it was something like 12 games in 6-7 weeks?'"


I have a DVD featuring the all the games from that tour. These weren't exhibition matches either. GB's game versus Auckland was a running battle from start to finish. It also includes a rather hirsute Bluey McLennan at stand off for Auckland getting stuck into the biff.

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Quote: Bullseye "Powell was the reason Northern stopped up in 1991/92. He was Peter Fox's first signing which speaks for itself. He did the work of two Paul Medley's and I found would offload if he was sure of getting the ball away safely to someone in support.

Perhaps his early days at Leeds saw him play cautiously. I expect if he'd tried dodgy offloads he'd have been binned given the way Leeds treated players in the 80s.

As G1 states. Reilly took him on two tours down under and he played a major part in GB's improvement in the period 88-90. Anyone remember that 30m romp under the sticks in the 3rd test versus NZ in 1990?

Not sure how to bring the thread back on topic but I'd say that Powell, like Sykes is unappreciated by the fekkwits.

Sykes is a limited player, he's got defensive issues at centre but has been played at stand off. He's currently working his guts out trying to make a success of it. He's never going to be top class but he's an important part of our current team. He's going to be a relatively cheap player so re-signing him is a no brainer, especially as he's home grown. There may be better players OOC but I doubt we could afford them.'"


What he said, except to say that Roy Powell was much admired by Jack Gibson. Now if Big Jack said "the boy done good", I'll take that opinion over anybody on this, or any other forum for that matter.

As for Kirke, he lacks punch and he's never going to set the world on fire. However, if things were different, we wouldn't need players like Eastwood and we probably wouldn't be able to afford to keep him. He is what he is, a good squad player, who can do a job. So why be so negative about him?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "IIRC played in every game on that 1990 tour, the only player to do so. '"


And did all the ironing for the squad as well.

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Quote: Gotcha " and there is plenty of players in the Championship who would do a better job for you on cheaper wages, and English too.

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That really is exaggerating it a bit.

There isn't plenty of players in the championship who would do a better job than Paul Sykes. Lower wages, yes. Better, I bet theres not "plenty"

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "That really is exaggerating it a bit.

There isn't plenty of players in the championship who would do a better job than Paul Sykes. Lower wages, yes. Better, I bet theres not "plenty"'"


You call it exaggerating, I call it utter bollox.

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Quote: tvoc "And did all the ironing for the squad as well.'"

You haven't made that up either. I recall reading that.

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Quote: Bullseye "You call it exaggerating, I call it utter bollox.'"

Well, I won't disagree, but I thought i'd put it nicely icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "Bradford have let go better players than Sykes in the last couple of years. He is far from cheap, if in comparison to others in the structure, and there is plenty of players in the Championship who would do a better job for you on cheaper wages, and English too.'"


Absolute nonsense.

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Sykes is a solid player, hard hitter, can pass (abit), can kick and up until a few weeks back I thought he had a fair bit of pace.
However IMO his 'rugby brain' is well below the standard of that required by a top SL player. That game aganst NZ in the World cup was the greatest example of this, but time and time again I see him make dodgy decisions in attack and defence. For this reason he's a player that I just don't rate, I wouldn't want him anywhere near Leeds, not even for his utility value.

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Quote: Wheels "Absolute nonsense.'"


Why?

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Quote: Matt23 "
However IMO his 'rugby brain' is well below the standard of that required by a top SL player. That game aganst NZ in the World cup was the greatest example of this, '"

Sykes always gets unfairly judged by his world-cup campaign. He was shifted positions constantly, its hard to keep changing positions each week never mind numerous times in a game.

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Quote: tvoc "And apart from one notable performance in a JPT/RT Final at Central Park V St Helens in the mud and rain their first impression turned out to be fairly accurate in that regard. As DHM said though there is nothing wrong with a second row pairing where one is a tackling machine and the other is an explosive runner. Graham Eccles and Phil Cookson immediately spring to mind here.

Graham Eccles, just mentioning his name hurts ..... crunch.'"


Powell and Medley were a great combination....but my most abiding memories also as a younger lad were the same.

Eccles was such a small bloke too, but he, Holmes, Harrison and Smith were always my dad's favourite players. I fell for the more obvious talents of Pitchford and Atkinson.

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