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Quote: Kirk "Missing the most goal attempts and still being top of the points scored table reinforces my point that attacking wise we look very good despite missing arguably our best creative player.'"


In patches perhaps but without much consistency at the present time. A few late tries when games have been (and one when it should have been) lost have presumably helped that perception. It's also a little early to pay too much attention to such tables where teams could move up or down several positions each week. Let's see how they look around week 13 when everyone has just about played everyone else.

Quote: Kirk "The penalty count is not everything you are indeed correct but one of the biggest gripes from the previous season was our lack of discipline by conceding less than 8 other teams over the 4 games so far I would suggest it has improved. I haven’t noticed as much chatting back to the ref so far either this year which is another sign of improvement in this area.'"


Coach McDermott has a record of producing disciplined teams, unfortunately he also has a record of producing losing teams. Let's just hope the two aren't connected.

Personally I enjoyed Graham Murray's approach of going out to put the opposition off their game and yes occasionally that might involve conceding the odd penalty along the way but it usually paid dividends in the end.

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Omething that I noticed at the harlequins game was how deep our half backs were playing, but then the centre wing combo standing quite flat when the ball got to them, I didn't think it worked particulary well.

On the above note regarding tables I don't know why they bother publishing them from the start of the season. Alot of the errors that we are producing can be improved, but we shall see. I thought all the players were saying how in the pre season they were doing alot more work with the ball? It hasn't looked lime it early doors

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Quote: Field of Dreams "All the things that have cost us points so far are easily fixable

On the surface they sound quite readily fixable as you suggest. But when you scratch a little deeper it is quite visible that the rot has set in. Last season we made do with a poor defence, we shipped points in and this problem never improved and was never tackled (pardon the pun). Old habits die hard. When Mac came in and talked about the 'brand' I cringed. Leeds are cutting corners in the basics, and is (and was) our biggest shortfall, so something so obvious should have been Priority Number 1. Leeds have enough natural talent to score beautiful try's we all know that, that can be quantified in the amount of long range try's we score. Look after the defence and the rest will fall into place. It's nothing complicated, it's only rugby league.

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From the SL website, the stats for Leeds aren't too bad, especially on attack.

We have the most tries, off-loads, clean breaks, drop goals (!), and second most metres made.

OTOH, we have missed the most tackles and made the third most errors, with the second fewest marker tackles.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "From the SL website, the stats for Leeds aren't too bad, especially on attack.

OTOH, we have missed the most tackles and made the third most errors, with the second fewest marker tackles.'"


Can you please explain how that team stat works?

(Hauraki has missed 11 on his own, with the next worst being Leuluai and Sinfield each with 9 to their credit.)

There must be somebody out there who knows.

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Quote: tvoc "Can you please explain how that team stat works?

(Hauraki has missed 11 on his own, with the next worst being Leuluai and Sinfield each with 9 to their credit.)

There must be somebody out there who knows.'"


Isn't it just missed tackles that can't be attributed to a single player?! No proof to this I'm just a guessing! You know, like if a player is running at 3 or 4 of us and slips through. Would the Opta man mark down all 4 players and allocate them a missed tackle each? Or would that not just go down as a "Team Missed Tackle"??

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Isn't it just missed tackles that can't be attributed to a single player?! No proof to this I'm just a guessing! You know, like if a player is running at 3 or 4 of us and slips through. Would the Opta man mark down all 4 players and allocate them a missed tackle each? Or would that not just go down as a "Team Missed Tackle"??'"


This seems the safest explanation.

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We are doing some great looking off-loads..... admittedly they are all pretty much in to the arms of the opposition, but at least we are off-loading a bit.

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Isn't it just missed tackles that can't be attributed to a single player?! No proof to this I'm just a guessing! You know, like if a player is running at 3 or 4 of us and slips through. Would the Opta man mark down all 4 players and allocate them a missed tackle each? Or would that not just go down as a "Team Missed Tackle"??'"



Who knows but I doubt that explanation would be it.

The team total displayed (on that site) equates exactly to the sum total of all the individual players who have played in said season for that team - try it for yourself - pick a category - find all the Leeds players (now would be a good time only 20 used so far) - total them. (It acts as a convenient cross check when I do the weekly report) Trust me it works, all that is except for 'Try Assists' which are not recorded in the Team section for some unknown reason and the missed tackles which bear no resemblance to the accumulated totals of the individual players.

As these tables appear database driven I'm assuming there is some formula at work but have no idea what it could be.

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Quote: tvoc "Who knows but I doubt that explanation would be it.

The team total displayed (on that site) equates exactly to the sum total of all the individual players who have played in said season for that team - try it for yourself - pick a category - find all the Leeds players (now would be a good time only 20 used so far) - total them. (It acts as a convenient cross check when I do the weekly report) Trust me it works, all that is except for 'Try Assists' which are not recorded in the Team section for some unknown reason and the missed tackles which bear no resemblance to the accumulated totals of the individual players.

As these tables appear database driven I'm assuming there is some formula at work but have no idea what it could be.'"


I'll have a gander. It's not like I've got a business to run or anything. icon_wink.gif

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If that's not a topic killer, it should be!

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It won't be, he never mentioned a glass coffee table.

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Quote: Wheels "It won't be, he never mentioned a glass coffee table.'"


That thread was awesome. Got some sheer quality sig material out of it too icon_lol.gif

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