Got away with one there.
Really poor first half, too many errors, coughing up possession and poor kicking.
But we'll take it seeing as we got done late on by Wire.


I agree that Handley is working pretty well in the centre, we could just do with another of him on the wing.
Newman is a problem. Not sure where we go with him.
He isn't playing well and is still acting like a child.
But at the moment, we haven't got much else.


Miller is getting better, but why on earth is he kicking goals? He's terrible.
Connor is a much better goal kicker.
If we still had Martin, we would not have needed that final try.
It makes a big difference.


There's a lot to like about O'Connor, but we need a new 9.
A dynamic runner, probably from the NRL.
Jarrod's passing from DH is way too slow and erratic.And when he shoots out of the line to try and get a quick hit in, it very rarely works.
He did it a few times on Friday and it's not a good look.


And we have 3 OS quota players not playing (granted, ECW is injured, but I don't think he would be in the 17).
That's not good.
Shows really poor recruitment.
All the OS players should be guaranteed starters.
Really need to think about this for next year.


Tbf Jenkins was really unlucky not to be in the 17. He's been really good.
ECW will be replaced by Sivo.
Lisone should be replaced by a better impact prop.
Frawley should be replaced by a dynamic 9.

Before the season started it was clear that we needed a top line kicker. We're not scoring enough to have the luxury of going up in 4's for any length of time. 6's creates so much more scoreboard pressure - Wakefield yesterday being one very recent example. 

A poor performance to be honest and lucky to win.

It frustrates me when we die with the ball on the 5th and fail to offload it. Some of Croft's kicks were poor and gave our defence no chance.


I also don't like the lack of captaincy voice with the ref. We need a captain who talks to the referee more and questions why some calls are being made. 


I've always made excuses for Newman but he just isn't performing. Shame McCormack, Simpson and ECW aren't available. I really liked the look of McCormack and Simpson.


Finally JOC's passing is atrocious and probably put us on the back foot a lot of the game. Put Sinfield in ahead of him. He has a nice crisp pass at least.

Jake Connor given a one point penalty warning shot across the bows, FC fans will be up in arms.....

Very good point. You’ve got to keep the officials under constant pressure or they will yield to the loudest and most regular voice, or voices in St Helens case. Of course we would all like to win in a gentlemanly fashion, but there is absolutely no point when every other team is conducting themselves differently to gain an advantage over weak officials. Who can ever forget Mcdonell being sent off for a “ghost” punch on Lomax against Saints simply because Lomax said to the ref “he punched me”.  It’s time to up the psychological warfare on the officials so we are at least competing on a level playing field. What with all the play acting on the field and interventions by coaches off it, there’s absolutely no point in being honest in a dishonest sport.

Anyone know what point in the game this incident was?

Said it earlier in this thread pal.Why is Miller kicking the goals and not Connor who I did say wasn`t brilliant but better than Miller imo.
Only other alternative is to play Sinfield at hooker.
I also said some time ago that maybe Croft replacing Newman and Sinfield/Connor at HB but maybe that`s pushing it too far.

The attempted 'headbutt'

Yes, what point in the game was it?

Answer my own question: 15:46 in.

Agree with Connor vs Miller and not at all sure why the change. Wouldn't disagree with Sinfield suggestion. The lack of goal kicking consistency will cost us down the line. 

Didn't Asiata throw a punch right at the end. Seems to have gotten away with that in the match review panel too