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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Clubs cant afford 1.8m whats point in raising it to 2.3m??? Im totally lost'"


It should be raised by 10% per annum for at least the next 5 years & clubs should be obliged to spend at 85 to 90% of the cap level. Failure to spend should result in reduced central funding the following season.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Clubs cant afford 1.8m whats point in raising it to 2.3m??? Im totally lost'"

I haven’t suggested increasing the cap to £2.3m, I’ve suggested creating a salary cap formula linked to the tv deal and the number of home games.

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Quote: Fieldheadrhino "It should be raised by 10% per annum for at least the next 5 years & clubs should be obliged to spend at 85 to 90% of the cap level. Failure to spend should result in reduced central funding the following season.'"

That’s a recipe for disaster though. With clubs forfeiting spending on infrastructure in order to meet the 85% rule.

For me it has to be a cap tied to income. It ensures clubs should be relatively financially sound and encourages increasing income.

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As ive said before its easy for Leeds fans in a city the size of ours to say the cap should be based on income and others clubs should grow their income if they cant compete. Would you say that if you supported clubs like Salford, Huddersfield and Cas?

An income based cap wouldnt be a level playing field which is supposedly the whole idea of a salary cap.

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We need to go back to licences and more importantly mergers. Then we can run the cap the way it should be, which is higher. We can’t compete with our number one competition globally because of it, so do something about it, don’t make it worse.

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Quote: Gotcha "We need to go back to licences and more importantly mergers. Then we can run the cap the way it should be, which is higher. We can’t compete with our number one competition globally because of it, so do something about it, don’t make it worse.'"


That’s all very well, but how would you like it if we were told to merge?

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Quote: shadwellrhino "That’s all very well, but how would you like it if we were told to merge?'"


We wouldn’t. But regardless that is irrelevant, I would have the same view if I was a Wakey, Cas, or Salford fan. Licences should require a minimum standard, and if you can’t reach that as a single club, the other option should be explored.

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Think we are heading into fantasyland again.....

Which club could merge with Salford to make them a sustainable enterprise going forward then???

If Cas and Wakey dont meet minimum requirements how would merging help? Sure they would have a bigger catchment area but nobody would be in the slightest bit interested in whatever name they come up with. They still wouldnt have a decent stadium to play in either.

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The idea of merger assumes that there are other town /cities willing to take the place of one of the merged teams. there has een no evidence of this in the uk since the last licensing, only Toronto have come on board and we are at present unsure of their sustainability, mergers were rejected in Cas /Wakey /Fev, Hudds /Fax, Cumbria, Widnes /Leigh. The Hull /Gateshead was a disaster. Licensing did not work last time.

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RL in common with all other sports including soccer and RU has been struggling for years to attract new players and spectators. The RFL recognised this over 10 years ago and identified one of the key problems as the amount of competition for the “leisure pound”, i.e. so many “new” ways for people to spend their time and money. Like other sports it hasn’t managed to react. What most have done is sell themselves to tv which in turn leads to decrease in live gates. It’s a vicious circle.

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Whatever we decide going forward we need a genuine vision for the game that the RFL, SL, players, and Sky all get behind and work towards.

We can't carry on just making it up as we go along and changing it every few years.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "As ive said before its easy for Leeds fans in a city the size of ours to say the cap should be based on income and others clubs should grow their income if they cant compete. Would you say that if you supported clubs like Salford, Huddersfield and Cas?

An income based cap wouldnt be a level playing field which is supposedly the whole idea of a salary cap.'"

Except I think the cap has done its job as far as it can of levelling the playing field.
We’ve had Salford making the Grand Final. Huddersfield finishing 1st. Cas finishing 1st and making the Grand Final. Huddersfield, Hull FC, Hull KR, Cas all making the Cup Final. Warrington finishing 1st, making the Grand Final and winning the cup. Hull FC winning the cup.

These teams won’t be able to compete consistently until they up their revenue streams and can not only spend on players but also spend on youth systems that rival Leeds, Wigan and Saints.

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Quote: Him "Except I think the cap has done its job as far as it can of levelling the playing field.
We’ve had Salford making the Grand Final. Huddersfield finishing 1st. Cas finishing 1st and making the Grand Final. Huddersfield, Hull FC, Hull KR, Cas all making the Cup Final. Warrington finishing 1st, making the Grand Final and winning the cup. Hull FC winning the cup.

These teams won’t be able to compete consistently until they up their revenue streams and can not only spend on players but also spend on youth systems that rival Leeds, Wigan and Saints.'"


I agree with most of that but you are talking about small towns. Cas has a population of 40k yet they get around 8k crowds most weeks. If Leeds got that high a percentage of our poulation we would need a stadium bigger than Wembley.

All very well saying increase your revenue streams but how can they do that when they are working wonders to compete as they are.

I bet Cas' hospitality is booked to capacity most games now.

Theres no money in the game.

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Fundamentally, how can a sport which struggles to achieve "critical mass" thrive when it's riven with in-fighting? I don't just mean in the UK, I mean the global game.

We need a root and branch approach to the whole sport globally, pooling resources and probably a move away from the slightly Norman structure we have now, of independent money men in their castles.

What you cannot afford in tough times is a lack of vision.

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