But you weren't using a correct stat either, you said if we lose his win rate will be... well we haven't played that game yet, the fact is in SL Agar's win rate is 50%

Is that good enough - no it isn't, but then evening out the 'easier' fixtures you mention, you have to factor in he took over the team when it was in a mess and it was never going to be a quick fix.

ATEOD the only facts that matter at this stage is we are in SL and he will live or die by the results next season - this years stats will mean nothing when the season starts in February.

As a wise man once said "People can come up with statistics to prove anything, 40% of people know that".

Surely the only thing we can all agree on is that i) a 50% (at best) win ratio for the second part of the season, and ii) that if we had won the close games we could be top 5, is a damning indictment of the quality of rugby both at Headingley and across SL?

He's got the gig now so let's see how much progress is made from the start of next season

Sure can. Which is why anything less than a play off spot or a close shave with it should be considered as a failure next season.

It is a transition. But you’ve still to avoid relegation so clubs toward the bottom end quite understandably go safe and bring in journeymen/average Aussies etc.

It’s why relegation is such a destabilising factor for the sport. This season 50% of the sports fully professional clubs can’t plan properly for next season or any of the seasons after it because they don’t know if they’ll be in a professional league or not.

Anyone guess which coach had a 61% win ratio with Leeds, and is now enjoying a 93% win ration? Anyone?

Sorry but quoting win percentages everywhere is a fundamentally flawed argument.

It is one indicator.

Brian Mac had a 37% win percentage at London before joining Leeds, and we all know what happened then.

How does the coach relate to media and sponsors? How do they relate to the key leaders in the team? What style of rugby do they promote? Do they give youth a chance, and give them the protection and support they need? Are they honourable and in line with organisational values? Technical v emotional?

So many components make up a good coach, and unless you had different coaches operating at the same time with exactly the same players and fixtures, it's extremely difficult to compare.

Coaches are also human and change/develop over time, it's not even a fixed quantity.

There are a million different factors which support organisational success/winning trophies, it's far more complex than previous win ratios over timescales which suit one point of view.

Exciting times! Much in the same way as finding what feels like a third testicle in your scrotum.

Sinfield was on Radio Leeds last night polishing a turd. Agar was apparently the outstanding candidate.

Maybe he was, we don’t know who else was interviewed. Whether he turns out to be the right choice Agar must have something going for him as he’s never out of work in the game

outstanding candidate?? really?? that's laughable. say he has done a good job and want continuity but outstanding. thats ridiculous

What are you expecting the club to say?

Putting out the spin is fine. Its the decision that's the problem.

Nothing different whatsoever the Rhinos BS Spin machine is in full swing.
The e-mails for corporate ,sponsors & dearer seats will be full of it.