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Quote: tvoc "Steve Ganson should resign immediately, if he doesn't he should be fired.

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Are you really suggesting a man should lose his job over this ? seems a bit extreme .

I am sure he doesn't stand to gain anything financially or otherwise from this , yet players knowingly involved in betting scandals and drug taking scandals have been allowed to continue to draw a living from RL , yet a bloke makes a mistake and you want to end his career . Bizarre .

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Quote: Buck Tarbrush "Are you really suggesting a man should lose his job over this ? seems a bit extreme .

I am sure he doesn't stand to gain anything financially or otherwise from this , yet players knowingly involved in betting scandals and drug taking scandals have been allowed to continue to draw a living from RL , yet a bloke makes a mistake and you want to end his career . Bizarre .'"


He is the boss of referees. If he can't get a simple call like that right what does it show to people he's in charge of?!

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Thank heavens! He is off duty this afternoon and his place is taken by Ian Smith who will, no doubt, be peeing himself.

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Quote: oldladyrhino "Thank heavens! He is off duty this afternoon and his place is taken by Ian Smith who will, no doubt, be peeing himself.'"


Smith will do alright, he does it every week for Premier Sport

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I confess I have not yet seen the incident...but it does appear to be inexcusable.

If the replays had been done the BBC way, with full explanatory commentary, it would have been interesting to hear his explanation (s) for his decision.

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Quote: Lawrie L "Smith will do alright, he does it every week for Premier Sport'"

I beg to differ.I don't think Smith is the answer.Anyhow I thought I had landed on the Wigan Warriors forum with the over reaction of some of the posters on here.Ganson made an error he's human, get over it. After Millenium Tragic the dulls got all the 50/50 decisions in the rematch I'm sure the same will happen with Hull KR.

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Quote: Mark_W "So why did he ask to see the grounding?
I'll point this out to the missus.

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Ok - nobody died, but an over-reaction? I don't think so. The competency of the refs in our great game has been an issue for some time. Ganson has just made one too many errors, at a showcase event, and it was a whopper! If it had not impacted on the result these 6 pages might be an over-reaction, but the outcome is an unfair result and, as such, must lead to questions about the capability of someone who puts himself in the limelight as an exemplar and leader but cannot get a simple judgement right, and not for the first time. The fact that this time he was using the best of technological support, and still could not get it right, means that this event needs to be addressed appropriately and that does not mean ignoring it or sweeping it under the carpet. (And YES - I would have said the same about Tanseygate if he had referred it to an equally incompetent vidoe ref. We put up with realtime errors from the ref on the spot all the time)

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Lets get this right should HKR not make the top 8 by 2 points and Whingercock loses his job that comes down to 1 man and 1 man only its not just "human error get over it".
The future repurcussions could be huge especially in terms of future investment/sponsorship for Rovers because you have more to negotiate with getting into the top 8 than you do if you don't.
He's consistently made blunders and now we are supposed to trust the Cyclops to boss Officials who are already inconsistent on a weekly basis.
Not up to it and not worth a wage he should be sacked.

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Quote: rhinoms "Lets get this right should HKR not make the top 8 by 2 points and Whingercock loses his job that comes down to 1 man and 1 man only its not just "human error get over it".
The future repurcussions could be huge especially in terms of future investment/sponsorship for Rovers because you have more to negotiate with getting into the top 8 than you do if you don't.
He's consistently made blunders and now we are supposed to trust the Cyclops to boss Officials who are already inconsistent on a weekly basis.
Not up to it and not worth a wage he should be sacked.'"


I couldn't agree more.

Incompetence of the highest order, simply unacceptable and surely his position as head of referees is untenable after such a glaring error.

Human error is not an acceptable explanation. The video ref is there to eliminate that, it was a simple decision, he had plenty of time to look it over, it beggers belief.

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Quote: rhinoms "Lets get this right should HKR not make the top 8 by 2 points and Whingercock loses his job that comes down to 1 man and 1 man only its not just "human error get over it".
The future repurcussions could be huge especially in terms of future investment/sponsorship for Rovers because you have more to negotiate with getting into the top 8 than you do if you don't.
He's consistently made blunders and now we are supposed to trust the Cyclops to boss Officials who are already inconsistent on a weekly basis.
Not up to it and not worth a wage he should be sacked.'"



Every season there is at least one team who JUST miss out on the play offs, sometimes by just one point, and each and every one of those teams will be able to point to a poor refereeing incident at some point in their season and blame that for losing them the points in that game.

Its all irrelevant you're assuming that because Hull KR lost yesterday it will effect the final positions of ALL of the teams in September, it won't, they will all lose games this season and they will all have just as much effect on the league positions as yesterdays one loss did - yesterday doesn't count half as much as you think it does.

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Ganson has made a huge cock up, no doubt about it. But let's not re-write history: he was consistently one of the best refs, rarely made "blunders" on the pitch - his main problem was if one team ed him off as he could really go after them.

Getting this one wrong was pretty unforgivable - but a sacking offence? Not really.

I like the way the Hull KR press release confirms how much they like Ganson but has aims an upper cut at Jon Sharpe - that's definitely the way I would go too.

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Quote: JerryChicken "Every season there is at least one team who JUST miss out on the play offs, sometimes by just one point, and each and every one of those teams will be able to point to a poor refereeing incident at some point in their season and blame that for losing them the points in that game.

Its all irrelevant you're assuming that because Hull KR lost yesterday it will effect the final positions of ALL of the teams in September, it won't, they will all lose games this season and they will all have just as much effect on the league positions as yesterdays one loss did - yesterday doesn't count half as much as you think it does.'"

HKR lost 2 comp points through sheer incompetence which could still have huge ramifications on their overall season i've not even mentioned the other teams.
That decision clearly cost them that match whatever anyone could point to throughout the season has no bearing on that 1 call in that 1 game.
Yesterday counts becasue they are 2 points worse off in their Derby and the same man has previous so how long should it go on before the game says enough is enough its not a 50/50 or even carry any rellevant explanation.
I think its time the sport cracked down on p!$$$ poor performances from officials everyone elses actions within the sport on the field carry ramifications through various punishments etc so why should they and in particular him get away with it after just apologising and missing his next scheduled match?
They are now full time pro's and its time they were treated as such.

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Quote: MjM "Ganson has made a huge cock up, no doubt about it. But let's not re-write history

Really.... Have you been watching over the years of the Ganson show !

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they are 1 point worse off not 2 the score was 16-16 when the try was given

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