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| From the Leeds performance that I have seen could be a very tough game next week. Didn't see wire game as at match but I am assuming they looked good
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| Quote: Ferdy "From the Leeds performance that I have seen could be a very tough game next week. Didn't see wire game as at match but I am assuming they looked good'"
easily our best display since the cup final last season..... were were awesome... 0-18 at half time... then went 0-24 up and killed the game off... saints scored a few tries when the games was over as a contest.
Our forwards absolutely destroyed saints.... worth recording tonights late showing on sky and watching carvell butcher james graham.
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| should be a cracker next week!
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "easily our best display since the cup final last season..... were were awesome... 0-18 at half time... then went 0-24 up and killed the game off... saints scored a few tries when the games was over as a contest.
Our forwards absolutely destroyed saints.... worth recording tonights late showing on sky and watching carvell butcher james graham.'"
It's sky + to watch tomorrow. Can't wait then till next week. Hope we can improve or it could be very uncomftable viewing (from
my point of view not yours!)
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Wire have been well capable of beating us for the last three seasons but even when they have taken significant leads, like in the playoff match last season, we have come back and won, regardless of how well we have been playing ourselves. In 2008, for instance, they were beating us until the last five minutes when we scored a try to draw the match only for Longy to kick one over on I think the last play. Why did they lose that match? Why have they lost so many against us in the last three years? Why can they beat everyone else but not us? It has to be a question of confidence. It certainly isn't to do with ability because on paper, certainly this season, they are at least as good as us if not better (given our pathetic wings, lack of one centre and mostly absent halfbacks!).
If they don't beat us tonight, when they won't even have Knowsley Road or Keiron Cunningham as excuses, I will be even more baffled by their losses than I am already, and I'm very baffled by their losses as it is.
At last someone with a depth of thought beyond the obvious - I note the likes of Gareth haven't bothered to reply to this excellent post - no surprise there
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| Quote: DHM "In late August or September maybe. In February it's 2 points.'"
So winning today will not give Warrington a significant boost going into the next month?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "At last someone with a depth of thought beyond the obvious - I note the likes of Gareth haven't bothered to reply to this excellent post - no surprise there'"
Erm, I came away from my computer screen at about 3pm.
Well done Wire. The monkey is off their back and they have 2 points. Harlequins got the same for beating us. Tonight's results will have no bearing whatsoever on the title. Do you recall Leeds getting Shallocked at Saints in the GF qualifier in 08? What bearing did that have? Or Leeds getting shallocked by Hull in the last league game of the season in 07?
I'd have though, in particular as a Leeds fan it might have dawned upon you that the league season is a qualifying campaign, nothing more and form in February has little bearing. After all, I do recall you writing us off in February, March and April of 2007 and 2008 only to be left with egg on your face.
It's 2 league points at this stage, nothing more, nothing less.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "I don't think you would make a good politician.... someone would ask you for your opinion and you would probably tell them the time.
To answer your question.....of course they would play against Leeds/Wigan.... no one ever said otherwise.... but probably not against a team like castleford or Hull KR
So lets roll back 4/5/6/7 (i could go on) seasons when we were not challenging at the top... and we were not winning cups... yet this record existed and saints WERE risking players who were not fully fit because of the record...... NOT because we were challengers to their league position.
What's your take on that? Were the players telling porkys?'"
still havent seen you answer this question 'darling'.
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| After their display against Saints, I reckon you are looking at one of the GF contestants, and the Wire fans have plenty of reasons to be arrogant.
We, on the other hand looked like Bradford
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| Quote: G1 "Erm, I came away from my computer screen at about 3pm.
Well done Wire. The monkey is off their back and they have 2 points. Harlequins got the same for beating us. Tonight's results will have no bearing whatsoever on the title. Do you recall Leeds getting Shallocked at Saints in the GF qualifier in 08? What bearing did that have? Or Leeds getting shallocked by Hull in the last league game of the season in 07?
I'd have though, in particular as a Leeds fan it might have dawned upon you that the league season is a qualifying campaign, nothing more and form in February has little bearing. After all, I do recall you writing us off in February, March and April of 2007 and 2008 only to be left with egg on your face.
It's 2 league points at this stage, nothing more, nothing less.'"
I think in 2008 I was chastised by your good self for raving about how good the team looked under McClennan - and how he no way compared to Smith as a coach - I think it was a case of you with egg on your face and backpeddling along with Danny on your tandem I.I.R.C - but you did have a measly £50 bet on the final!! - facts a terrible things especially when you actually have the arrogance to believe you are never ever wrong!!!
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I think in 2008 I was chastised by your good self for raving about how good the team looked under McClennan - and how he no way compared to Smith as a coach - I think it was a case of you with egg on your face and backpeddling along with Danny on your tandem I.I.R.C - but you did have a measly £50 bet on the final!! - facts a terrible things especially when you actually have the arrogance to believe you are never ever wrong!!!'"
David, you wrote the teams off. Everyone remembers it. I had fun at the end of every season re-hashing your posts.
What point are you trying to make by pointing out my successful bet in 08? That I didn't write them off?
Point remains, 2 league points won or dropped in February is far from crucial, whoever the opposition.
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| At this point in the year it's about making sure the basic structures are in place and testing them. Picking up 2 points every week is important but not the "be all and end all" that some would believe. You can't be on top of your game every week at this early stage, and we need to put some consistency together that we can build from.
On the point about Wire beating Saints, that run has gone on so long that it I can see it was crucial for Wire to beat Saints as early as possible so that they could gain the confidence and belief that they were capable of doing it later in the season when it will matter more. If Saints had come back to win again, then there would continue to be a question in the minds of the Wire players when the big games come around. As it is they have put the run to bed and have picked up exactly the same number of league points this weekend as Harlequins have. I dare say that Tony Smith will place more value in the confidence that Wire will take from finally beating Saints, than the 2 league points they gained.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "So winning today will not give Warrington a significant boost going into the next month?'"
yes it will... and more importantly as those in favour of the arrogant point of view have forgotten, we have often gone on a bit of a bad run after one of our many gallant defeats by saints. Hopefully we can now go on a decent run.
Saints next home game is Harlequins. I wonder how many people fancy quinns to win based on their away win at headingly or based on Saints first home loss to Wires in plenty......
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| Quote: batleyrhino "At this point in the year it's about making sure the basic structures are in place and testing them. Picking up 2 points every week is important but not the "be all and end all" that some would believe. You can't be on top of your game every week at this early stage, and we need to put some consistency together that we can build from.
On the point about Wire beating Saints, that run has gone on so long that it I can see it was crucial for Wire to beat Saints as early as possible so that they could gain the confidence and belief that they were capable of doing it later in the season when it will matter more. If Saints had come back to win again, then there would continue to be a question in the minds of the Wire players when the big games come around. As it is they have put the run to bed and have picked up exactly the same number of league points this weekend as Harlequins have. I dare say that Tony Smith will place more value in the confidence that Wire will take from finally beating Saints, than the 2 league points they gained.'"
Absolutely - my mind goes back to 2007 - the play off semi against Saints, Leeds lost the game but mentally they won the game and that showed in the final. The psychology of pro sport plays a huge part in deciding who wins.
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