Yep! He has talent and the abilities to be a RL forward

Stop it Smokey. Rational debate which doesn't slaughter the coach is not really approved of here.

Kirke was very good in the last 6 weeks of last year. He deserved his place. His qualities complement players like JP and our game plan. Solid, reliable, few missed tackles ( although he had a patch mid year where he seemingly forgot how to defend), few mistakes. When it comes to making metres I'd rather see JP or Delaney carrying the ball but I thought Kirke ran stronger with broken ribs than at any point previously! Perhaps the pain killers warped his brain as well!

I do struggle to see that Singleton is the finished article and answer to all our forward ills.

He's well on his way, and brings us great energy. But he is still young (props often mature a little slower than other players after all) and remains a little bit error prone in defence and attack.

I think people are seeing what they want to see some of the time. The lad's on the right track and getting better all the time. He still has developing to do though.

I don't think people are getting too carried away with the lad, it's just that many see the fact of when JP does retire we are going to be left with a gaping hole in our front row and go forward, and Singleton has the potential to fill some of that void so the more exposure he gets to the first team the better.Plus, he does seem to be improving all the time.

You only have to watch Saints at the moment to see an example of a player that has grown immeasurably since being cast aside by our club and who im sure would have been a cornerstone of our pack for the next decade if we had stuck with him.

Amor is 26, i dont think he will play another 10 years.

I agree with most of paragraph 1, but he doesn't need to play 60 minutes every week to get enough exposure to the first team. The JP-shaped hole is unfillable, but accepting that it will take 2 men to fill it, Singleton may well be one of them. He has nearly 2 years to grow into that role.

Maybe Amor needed to go somewhere else, there's never a guarantee that a player would develop the same staying in one place. But it may well be that letting him go won't prove a great decision. The proof of that pudding will be in the eating.

I rmeember times when casting Dowes and Carvell aside didn't seem to have been a great idea, but over their careers we won a big shiny bucketload of silverware, so the sum of our suqad building efforts was right, even if not all the details were. Time will tell if that will be the same now. Amor is all of 3 games into his Saints career, and they have flown out of the traps. Long way to go.

Best part of then

if things had been done as they should have been he would have already had a good season under his belt with us too.

Fair enough i would go along with most of that.You are right in that JP is going to be irreplaceable but we do need to identify at least 3 quality props in the next couple of years to take on his graft.Singleton is clearly going to be one, hopefully 2 more will present themselves in due course but it wont be easy.

JP can be replaced but it will take the Clubs to sign off the Super Player Proposal, there are plenty of JPs in the NRL.

Disagree with this. Don't think there are many JP calibre players knocking around anywhere. It's not just his work on the field but his never say die attitude and commitment which make him one of the best players of his generation from either hemisphere

Ideally 2011 would have gone a bit differently. Amor picked to step up instead of signing Ben Cross, Burgess sticks around and Jay Pitts allowed to step up instead of signing Weller Hauraki.

If we were going out now with Peacock, Burgess, Amor, Singleton, Leuluai & Bailey I think we'd be absolutely set.

But we aren't, and there's no point crying over spilt milk.

Jay Pitts would would not be in our team now even if we hadn't signed hauraki (who was a crap signing)
Burgess was always going to go following Sam
And in 2011 Amor didn't look anywhere near good enough. The only mistake with Amor was later not retaining him, but hindsight is wonderful.

Pitts can't even get in Hull team been loaned out to Donny. Pitts never was and never will be a regular super league player.
Amor with hindsight was a mistake but the lad wanted to stay at wakey where he was first choice, which he would not have been at Leeds