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Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif "As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin
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| Quote: Richie "Gash for 20 years? We won a series 3-0 two years ago, against a team that became World Champs a year later.
It's an awful long way to go to get an international to bring in the same attendance as a full round of club fixtures.'"
The Kiwi side that GB beat - with the benefit of home advantage - was nowhere near as strong as the side that went on to win the World Cup. IIRC they had something like a dozen players missing for one reason or another, not something that hampered them at the WC.
Who benefits from that full round of club fixtures (well attended or otherwise)? The clubs.
And where does that benefit end up? In the pockets of the players.
A well attended international series puts money back into the development of the game at all levels. A relatively well attended weekly round (which basically means one where both Leeds and Wigan are at home, otherwise it's much less impressive) puts money in the hands of the players and the taxman.
Which should be a priority for the future development of the game in the UK?
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| Quote: El Diablo "Issues with the current international series aside, you appear to have some personal issues with Tony Smith. Might I ask why?'"
nothing personal. never met him. i'm speaking as i see his record and the sides he produced. in 2004 i have given, and will continue to, give him 100% praise for that season. after that he seemed to change as a person and a coach. arrogance? over confidence? i don't know. i know he got rid of all the coaches and brought in yes men.
he had the world at his feet but somewhere along the line he changed .
and not for the better
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| Quote: tad rhino "nothing personal'"
You called him a pr1ck earlier.
Since 2004 he has won a WCC, GF, CC and a test series.
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| doesn't mean i have to like or rate him. sorry if this doesn't meet with your approval
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| Quote: tad rhino "doesn't mean i have to like or rate him. sorry if this doesn't meet with your approval'"
I'm very liberal Tad, everyone is entitled to an opinion however wrong it is
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6553.gif [b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches.
[b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?.
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| Well we'll see, Ganson is reffing on Saturday now, so no excuses. rlhererl
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| Quote: Tony Soprano "I'm very liberal Tad, everyone is entitled to an opinion however wrong it is
thats good. everyone should be enitled to an opinion mate
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Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif "As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin
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| Quote: loinertillidie "Well we'll see, Ganson is reffing on Saturday now, so no excuses. rlhererl'"
Typical Aussie ignorance.
At least the RFL/IRLF haven't done their usual convent girl impression and just bent over and allowed the Aussies to appoint their own referee(s).
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| Quote: Richie "Gash for 20 years? We won a series 3-0 two years ago, against a team that became World Champs a year later.
It's an awful long way to go to get an international to bring in the same attendance as a full round of club fixtures.'"
World Cup Side.
Hohaia; Perrett, Mannering, Ropati, Vatuvei; Marshall, Fien; Cayless, Leuluai, Blair, Fa'alogo, Harrison, Smith Interchange Luke, Eastwood, Rapira, Manu.
Game 3 v GB 2007
Sam Perrett, Shontayne Hape, Clinton Toopi, Paul Whatuira, Taniela Tuiaki, Lance Hohaia,Thomas Leuluai, Roy Asotasi, Dene Halatau, Fuifui MoiMoi, Simon Mannering, Frank Pritchard, Jeremy Smith.
Replacements: Greg Eastwood, Louis Anderson, Sam Rapira, David Faiumu.
I dont think you can really compare the two do you so why keep banging on about a win vs the weakest side ever to tour from NZ?
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| Quote: Richie Ramrod "World Cup Side.
Hohaia; Perrett, Mannering, Ropati, Vatuvei; Marshall, Fien; Cayless, Leuluai, Blair, Fa'alogo, Harrison, Smith Interchange Luke, Eastwood, Rapira, Manu.
Game 3 v GB 2007
Sam Perrett, Shontayne Hape, Clinton Toopi, Paul Whatuira, Taniela Tuiaki, Lance Hohaia,Thomas Leuluai, Roy Asotasi, Dene Halatau, Fuifui MoiMoi, Simon Mannering, Frank Pritchard, Jeremy Smith.
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Is it supposed to be news that the teams have changed from one year to the next? Particularly after losing.
Quote the England team last years World Cup and compare it to the team from last week. Does that mean the Kiwi WC win doesn't count?
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| Quote: Richie "Is it supposed to be news that the teams have changed from one year to the next? Particularly after losing.
Quote the England team last years World Cup and compare it to the team from last week. Does that mean the Kiwi WC win doesn't count?'"
The teams are forced to change, however you are missing the point, the clear difference is that for the WC Final NZ had their full strength side out.
Against GB the team was almost a second string side and in some cases third choice.
Is that difficult to understand?
Do you think a New Zealand first string (the WC side) would have lost to GB 3-0?
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| Quote: Richie Ramrod "The teams are forced to change, however you are missing the point, the clear difference is that for the WC Final NZ had their full strength side out.
Against GB the team was almost a second string side and in some cases third choice.
Is that difficult to understand?
Do you think a New Zealand first string (the WC side) would have lost to GB 3-0?'"
That's always the case RR. It's very rare to get a 1st choice team at this late stage of the season. What's the threshold of player stability for a result to count?
Are you discounting last years WC because the teams have changed since?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Typical Aussie ignorance.
At least the RFL/IRLF haven't done their usual convent girl impression and just bent over and allowed the Aussies to appoint their own referee(s).'"
Does anyone else find the idea of Thierry Hallibut reffing a match between England and Australia terrifying?
Nothing wrong with Saint Steve - especially if he`s consistant with the biff rulings (I have the image of him telling JP to deal with himself ).
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| As for the question in the thread, who is for the question in the thread, who is/has been qualified, in the opinion of fans, to manage our international team? I can@t thinkof anyone who has had that particular confidence.
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| Quote: Richie "That's always the case RR. It's very rare to get a 1st choice team at this late stage of the season. What's the threshold of player stability for a result to count?
Are you discounting last years WC because the teams have changed since?'" string New Zealand side.
Why would I discount last years WC?
We are talking about you giving top billing to a series which to one country (by their own admittance) meant very little, in fact enough to leave key personnal at home and dip into SL to throw a side together, a team that half the side would not get close to a second string New Zealand side.
You can not score GB's greatness based on that series and only a fool would do so.
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