He passes the ball on the 10m line and it is received about 3m in front. It definitely travelled forward.

I think you misunderstand what the momentum rule is. It has nothing to do with how fast the player travels after the pass (like Stevo seems to think), so Crooks challenging Webb is irrelevant. The ball travels in the forward direction faster than Webb was moving, therefore it should have been disallowed.

Can't agree about the Briscoe forward pass. It was definitely forward! It travelled nearly 5m forward, Briscoe wasn't going that fast!

Just for those who didn't think the first Leeds try was forward:
Webb passes the ball (look at the 10m dashed line on the pitch).

Jones-Bishop just before catching the ball (stopped slightly early so you can still see the ball just above his right shoulder).

I think much of that attitude can be put down to commentators, coaches and players all having confidence in the Australian Controller of Referees taking action against his subjects if they have had poor performances or made glaring errors. Over here, everything is kept behind closed doors, especially Suart Cummings. It's almost a given that once a referee has been elevated to full-time Superleague status, it's a job for life, no matter what his subsequent performance is like. I reckon even the FA operate a more disciplined system than we do.

This one also confirms what i though when i saw this right in front of us last night. I thought the direction of the ball was altered by Sinfield and his hand is very close on this clip. Watching it back this morning so it may be clearer at normal speed. No matter either way, a match can look completely different in a replay to at a ground. Do want to see the Ablett/Manu incident though. Manu isn't a dirty player, it's not his style and was suprised when i saw the replay on the big screen.

Well thanks for all the hard work on the screen grabs but as they are Sky copyright and as Sky have threatened RLFans in the past for using copyright material they've had to be binned.

Where Webb goes, where he is when the ball is caught and even where the ball finishes are all totally irrelevant. The ball was going forward relative to Webbs hands at the moment he passed it, therefore it was a forward pass.

chld is useless. He kept leeds in the game

I’m going to echo what most have said regarding the game and Child.

Hull totally deserved the win, they were sharper and stronger up the middle of the park. We looked tiered and a little disjointed at times.

Child was appalling and spoiled the flow of the game – he’s whistle happy and often misses genuine error and then blows-up for none existent ones.

In a nutshell, he is simply not to the standard required for marshalling a Super League game.

This man just demonstrates the absolute dearth of decent referees in our game. Instead of some of the half cocked ideas that they've come up with in the past (Stobart anyone?) the RFL should be putting real effort into improving the standing of our officials. Perhaps we might then have threads where the referee is not mentioned.

For me, Childs is an honest, communicative referee. He seems devoid of ego on the pitch, and on the touchline at amateur level. I think he does his best without bias, and makes mistakes as we all do.

The vitriol being spewed on here has been aimed at Referees Presley, Smith, Klein, Thaler, Ganson, Alibert and Bentham when things haven't gone Leeds way, but with a notable exception and Tad, I have yet to hear of anyone putting their money where their mouth is and attending a refereeing course and doing a bit themselves.

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but sometimes people opine on things they know very little, or nothing about.

The attitude of Rugby League fans towards referees makes me laugh. They preach in the pub about how much respect footballers should show the referee, but young referees in Rugby League are quitting because of how much stick they take from Rugby League fans.

The smith pen was 100% correct, smith placed the ball on the floor before regaining his feet, laws clearly state you have to stand up then place the ball, if smith had of done that then the slightest touch from lynch would have seen lynch penalised, but smith didnt, he tried to get a quick ptb but didnt regain his feet, so james was correct.

I agree, but the same sentiments could be applied also to players and coaches getting stick. It's personally the reason why die hard 'one club' fans make me cringe (coulnt find a better word!).

That said, my junior side yesterday had a ref that gave penalties for knock ons!

This is where the frustration sets in though mate why not penalise it all game then when both teams continually do it?
I also reckon the next game it happens in when JC is ref the penalty will go the other way.
Also Lynch still has to clear the ptb and not have hands on Smith as the tackle was called complete does he not?
The lack of consistency is ridiculous amongst some refs and whilst i accept its a difficult task as a full time Pro they should be more consistent imo.