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Agree Tvoc/FB a ridiculous rule change that offers an advantage to the team about to reset their defence on the 30m and also doesn't make sense IF you are already dead in goal when you touch the ball.

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Quote: Fat Boy "I think I missed this rule change in the off season and, although I can kind of understand what they are trying to achieve it goes against every other rule that mentions the receiving of the ball whilst having at least one foot out of the field of play.

A daft rule that slows down the run of play and can potentially prevent the quick 20m restart.

One has to wonder if Williams was even made aware of this rule change or if he was just on autopilot?'"


The players have been told of the rule changes, however in that split second it's difficult not to do something that you have been doing for your entire rugby career.

Personally I don't like that rule as it slows the game down and rewards a poor kick.

The other one last night was the pass when the ref had shouted held. It should have been a penalty as it was at least a second after the held call. I agree if it's at the moment the ref. calls held but last night was nothing like that.

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Agree again RG!

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Thanks for the explanation TVOC now to take it further (same postioning of player) but the ball bounces in the field of play first is the player still deemed to have taken the ball out?

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If Phil Clarke is at Headingley tomorrow I believe it will be the first time he as been to the ground we were crowned champions. I trust we will give him a warm and friendly welcome considering his statements from last year.

On a side note does anyone still have the link to the Grand Final inspirational video?

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So where was it tonight? Is it only reliable in low intensity SL encounters.

You could tell from Clarke's comments if it had been in operation around the sixty minute mark it would have been confidently predicting - Manly by plenty.

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Just watched the Saints v Catalan game – has Clarke’s Margin Meter ever come close to predicting the final score?

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Quote: Fat Boy "Just watched the Saints v Catalan game – has Clarke’s Margin Meter ever come close to predicting the final score?'"


It's pretty near after the final whistle icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Fat Boy "Just watched the Saints v Catalan game – has Clarke’s Margin Meter ever come close to predicting the final score?'"


It couldn't predict a p1££up on St Patrick's Day.

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I turned the TV off when the magic margin metre said St Helens were gonna win by 31 (I think it was 31) and Hemmings said that was a conservative estimate.

I get no pleasure in watching one sided contests or conservatives.

Did I miss much?

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Quote: tvoc "I turned the TV off when the magic margin metre said St Helens were gonna win by 31 (I think it was 31) and Hemmings said that was a conservative estimate.

I get no pleasure in watching one sided contests or conservatives.

Did I miss much?'"


Narr, not much. It finished in much the same way as the magic Margin Meter said it would.

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Quote: tvoc "I turned the TV off when the magic margin metre said St Helens were gonna win by 31 (I think it was 31) and Hemmings said that was a conservative estimate.

I get no pleasure in watching one sided contests or conservatives.

Did I miss much?'"


I had been so sure that no knowledgable rugby fan would actually take any notice of the margin metre! icon_eek.gif

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Quote: tvoc "I turned the TV off when the magic margin metre said St Helens were gonna win by 31 (I think it was 31) and Hemmings said that was a conservative estimate.

I get no pleasure in watching one sided contests '"


It was indeed very one sided after that. icon_lol.gif

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I do wish Sky wouldn't fall in love with such meaningless gimmicks. A lot of people could be tempted to switch off when Phil is telling them it's likely to be a 30 point win for Stains.

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It would be interesting to know what the in-game odds at half time were for a Catalans win.

If I remember rightly, the 31 point Saints win prediction was made when they were about 10-12 points ahead about halfway through the game so it wasn't an unreasonable prediction (assuming that the 2nd half of the game would follow the first). Of course, we all know sport doesn't work that way.

Margin Meter wouldn't have given Man Utd a cat in hell's chance in the 1999 Champion's League final.

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