Please be gentle with us.

It is fairer than somebody getting drawn against the whipping boys of the league and getting two easy points and a huge PD that isn't so easily available to the other teams . Why not have it as a mid-season friendly . No league points to chase , and a chance to let the academy/reseves , or even the juniors have a run out among the first team ?
I still think that the Magic Weekend should go on tour . A different venue each season . There are lots of venues around the country that could host such an event .

That would really get the fans flocking there wouldn't it

It's got to be better than holding it miles away in a country that doesn't even have a team in the league . Or are they going to sneak a franchise to a Scots team in two years time ?

I can see it now the Edinburgh Eagles

It doesn't really matter how the RFL decide the Champion team each season.

The most important point is that they make the rules clear before the start of the season.

It is then up to the individual clubs to plan how best to approach the competition.

You can't alter the importance of the league leaders or GF winners when all the clubs have known before a ball was kicked what really matters.

So which one do you consider to be the champion side ?

I have to agree with this, I would like this also, like City of Manchester one season, Anfield the other.. stuff like that would be quality imo, instead of taking it many miles away.... however, wouldnt mind a Dublin trip.

Grand Final Winners. Simple - end of.

Everybody knows at the beginning of the season how the champions will be decided. Luckily of the past 2 seasons it has been quite clear in the Grand Final.

Take last year for example. Saints win the league by a point from Leeds, yet Leeds have a legitimate victory taken away by a wrong obstruction decision away at Harlequins. If it stood Leeds win the league by a point.

Assuming that happened would Leeds have been rightful champions? Seems like a roll of the dice for mine.

At least in a game when the league is so close, the top 2 (assuming they both qualify) can prove once and for all in a one off game

Whichever one the competition format dictates.

Currently (from 1998 to date) - The Grand Final winners are the Champions.

It's not really for me or you or anyone else to say otherwise.

As has been mentioned ‘newcomers’ to RL do not hold the hub cap with much regard.

My question is ‘do the clubs hold the League Leaders Shield in high regard too’?

The Grand Final makes a club champions, coaches of the teams that, at this point in the season, have a play off place nailed on will target, and coach towards getting their charges to the final and NOT focused on the hub cap. This will be a bonus – ask any coach if they’d trade the hub cap for a GF spot and I’ll bet a £pound to a pinch of they would all bite your hand off.

I know how , and where the so-called champions get their title . I have been to the GF (yes I can prove it if anyone is doubting me ). But how can it be fair that a team can win only half(ish) of the regular rounds , then be given the opportunity to get their hands on the top piece of silverware by winning three fixtures after the regular rounds have ended .
If Rhinos , Saints , or the Giants , don't get the title this time round I really do hope it is the team that finishes in 8th spot that gets it . Yes they will be presented with the silverware , and they will be named as champions , but could you genuinely respect them as the true champions ?
I can't , and won't . Just my humble opinion though .

That's something the RFL haven't considered when making the play-offs a top 8.
I think it's rewarding mediocrity and should remain a top 6.

Couldn’t agree more mate – change for changes sake if you ask me.

A team finishing eigth will have to win away at the team finishing 5th.

They will then have to win away at a team finishing in the top four.

They will then have to win away at another team finishing in the top four.

They will then have to win the Grand Final at Old Trafford.

If they do so they will be the Champions because that's what the rules said before the season started.