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I do think a shared ground would be the more ideal structure for both clubs. For such small local clubs the added revenue of having the stadium in constant use throughout the season would be beneficial to both clubs allowing them to possibly free up cash to plough into the squad and become more competitive. They could do what the Milan football teams do in the San Siro and have their own ends of the ground.

However i feel this would be something both sets of fans wont agree on. I think the main reason been the stadiums location. I know this means allot but in hindsight they should think about whats best for their clubs. i hear a lot of Wakey fans refusing to move to the Cas site thats been proposed because its not part of wakefield. But the proposed site of the new wakey ground is practically in leeds so whats the big problem? I know the same argument comes out all the time "how would you feel about ground sharing with Bradford?". Well I wouldnt like it but i know thats not going to happen as we arent in a position to have to do that. However if we had to for the sake of the club then so be it

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Quote: Lawrie L "Tad, give over

Castleford only knows backwards'"


eusa_naughty.gif I will be sending a strongly worded letter to Leeds Rhinos and the owner of Southstander.com and ask them to ban you for your nasty words toward the Castleford tigers club

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An angry Cas fan

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Quote: Lawrie L "I would laugh if it goes t-ts up'"


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Quote: Lawrie L "Tad, give over

Castleford only knows backwards'"


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You will also be recieving a letter

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Lets be honest the only people objecting this ground share will be a small minority and the thriving homosexual community in both areas. On the news you’ll see some Castleford fan whose clearly not too keen on salad claiming its all wrong without any logical reason why whilst fifteen kids in the background pull faces at the camera.

Wakefield don’t even have any fans so you’ll see some chav whose had some brief media training just before going on air answering yes or no. His mates will be in the background either cheering by shouting ‘waaaayyy’ whilst lifting two arms up or sticking up two fingers.

The rest of the population in these areas won’t give a damn. Especially the rugby league ones who go to watch rugby league no matter what sh[ii[/ithole its played in.

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Quote: Gotcha "The Junction 32 site is already agreed and already at an advanced stage. The Junction 30 site is not. There is only one option to consider as far as the one stadium goes.

I still hope the game sees sense though and both clubs merge full stop.'"


To be fair Gotcha and I am not having a go at you, you need to know more of the facts before making a call like that as it is not just that simple... in fact it is really complex. The Newmarket scheme would be the one I would back and the one I think Wakefield Council want to back and will back! I am happy to tell you why, but it would be a long post and to be fair many might not be interested on this board.

My gut is telling me that the talks are really all about Cas dropping there plans and moving into the new community stadium at Newmarket, alongside Wakefield, whom have already agreed a deal with the Community Trust and the developer.

I also think that a merger is not the right way to go (Ground share fine though) and that Cas might be faced with, and possibly chose to stay put and drop out of SL and still play as Cas in the National League.

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Unlucky bewildered, your well thought out post got stuck in the middle of a bunch of gompers trying to be funny.

IIRC haven't the RFL already made reference to sides needing to be further on with new stadia than just outline planning permission when the next round of licence applications go in?

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Quote: bewildered ".... I know the same argument comes out all the time "how would you feel about ground sharing with Bradford?". Well I wouldnt like it but i know thats not going to happen as we arent in a position to have to do that. However if we had to for the sake of the club then so be it'"


While not disagreeing with your satement (edited) above, although we have not had to consider a ground share with the Bulls, we do have to do exactly that with Leeds Carnegie & just look at the arguments/debate that rouses on here. Sadly logic, common sense & financial realism don't figure highly in most fan's thoughts.
Remember that he who pays the piper calls the tune so it will be the politicians in Wakefield who will make the final decision. Both sets of fans will then have to like it or lump it.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Unlucky bewildered, your well thought out post got stuck in the middle of a bunch of gompers trying to be funny.'"


Indeed it did.

Quote: Andy Gilder "IIRC haven't the RFL already made reference to sides needing to be further on with new stadia than just outline planning permission when the next round of licence applications go in?'"


Yes they have, but suspect that as long as they can demonstrate they have things sorted contractually then the RFL are likely to accept that as sufficient to grant one of both of them another 3 years... BUT if still not sorted by the time after next, they are both chocolate ducked!!!

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Quote: bewildered "I do think a shared ground would be the more ideal structure for both clubs. For such small local clubs the added revenue of having the stadium in constant use throughout the season would be beneficial to both clubs allowing them to possibly free up cash to plough into the squad and become more competitive. They could do what the Milan football teams do in the San Siro and have their own ends of the ground.

However i feel this would be something both sets of fans wont agree on. I think the main reason been the stadiums location. I know this means allot but in hindsight they should think about whats best for their clubs. i hear a lot of Wakey fans refusing to move to the Cas site thats been proposed because its not part of wakefield. But the proposed site of the new wakey ground is practically in leeds so whats the big problem? I know the same argument comes out all the time "how would you feel about ground sharing with Bradford?". Well I wouldnt like it but i know thats not going to happen as we arent in a position to have to do that. However if we had to for the sake of the club then so be it'"


Pretty much agree with all of that.

I know I've been a bit naughty in the past saying that they should merge but even ground sharing seems unreasonable to the two sets of fans.

It's a shame because one ground, two clubs halves the cost doesnt it? Makes both clubs stronger straight from the off.

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "To be fair Gotcha and I am not having a go at you, you need to know more of the facts before making a call like that as it is not just that simple... in fact it is really complex. The Newmarket scheme would be the one I would back and the one I think Wakefield Council want to back and will back! I am happy to tell you why, but it would be a long post and to be fair many might not be interested on this board.

My gut is telling me that the talks are really all about Cas dropping there plans and moving into the new community stadium at Newmarket, alongside Wakefield, whom have already agreed a deal with the Community Trust and the developer.'"


Don't worry I take no offence from it. You are from that industry, and will know a damn site more than me on it.

I have seen your posts previously on it, and can understand why they council would prefer the Newmarket site. Personally though, I don't think that will go through without time wasting oppossition. And I don't think the RFL should wait that long for assurances.

Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I also think that a merger is not the right way to go (Ground share fine though) and that Cas might be faced with, and possibly chose to stay put and drop out of SL and still play as Cas in the National League.'"


I do think it would work though, and I think the RFL should enforce it. I notice how you only mention Cas in that statement though. In all honesty I think Cas bring more to the game, and would be better for the game, than Wakefield do. Of course that's my opinion though.

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Quote: Gotcha "I do think it would work though, and I think the RFL should enforce it. I notice how you only mention Cas in that statement though. In all honesty I think Cas bring more to the game, and would be better for the game, than Wakefield do. Of course that's my opinion though.'"


A true merger would result in more than 50% of the fans of each club walking away rather than watch a merged side IMO, leaving the new club with a shiny new stadium and nobody sitting in it.

How many true mergers have their been in RL over the last 20-30 years, rather than what have in effect been takeovers?

Wests is probably the only one that springs to mind where the identity of both teams was retained. St George was in effect a takeover with the sop of retaining a couple of games at Illawarra and the name, likewise Hull FC-Gateshead and Huddersfield-Sheffield.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "A true merger would result in more than 50% of the fans of each club walking away rather than watch a merged side IMO, leaving the new club with a shiny new stadium and nobody sitting in it.

How many true mergers have their been in RL over the last 20-30 years, rather than what have in effect been takeovers?

Wests is probably the only one that springs to mind where the identity of both teams was retained. St George was in effect a takeover with the sop of retaining a couple of games at Illawarra and the name, likewise Hull FC-Gateshead and Huddersfield-Sheffield.'"


We had this a couple of months back. It's all opinions. What you have with Cas and Wakefield is nothing like Hull -Gateshead, or Huddersfield-Sheffield. It is a completely different scenario.

And yes, you are right to say initial opinion would be against. But I am 100% convinced that if enforced by the RFL it would prove a success. It certainly would be an improvement on what we have now.

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