Briscoe is off contract at the end of the year so if he's has crap as ypu say then he won't be getting a new deal.If Stevens is has good as you think then he's only got Evans the journey man your words and Briscoe who is done your words infront of him.So if he cant get passed these two then he probably isn't going to make it.

On a more positive note, what are the four lads we are rumoured to be getting like? Names mentioned unofficially are Holroyd, Mustapha, Johnson and is it Walton????

Cannot disagree with any of that.

Holroyd & Mustapha are no nonsense fwds plenty of bang in both.
Walters is a tall athletic BR big unit who does big minutes stood toe to toe with the Aussie jnrs & came out on top.
Corey Johnson is a quality smart young 9 very much like Darryl Clark but can also cover HB.

Yea thats it i just fancied a moan nothing to do with another pointless Sinfield bargain getting a shirt.
Evans is a class signing thank god he can cover our backline and is so good at it.

Cheers. Just throwing a question in here regarding your debate about whether your youth is ready to step up. We now have 1 FB, 4 three quarters and two half backs before we dip into reserves which are mainly academy and lads too old and none of them seem anywhere near playing, however your young lads don’t even seem to get mentioned in coming across. Bearing in mind the lack of any backs we have is this saying that both coaching staff groups think your young backs aren’t even ready for Champ rugby yet? Just a question to add to your debate about youth or Evans

How are leeds going to be able to field a reserves next year?

I am not getting involved in right or not, as there is no doubt we needed strengthening in the area. However, an example Caton Brown is available free, and he would have been a much better option.

Agar has gone with a player who he has coached so he'll know his strengths and flaws.

Really changes nothing of the point though.

It's a lot more than just picking someone who is a free agent though.

We may have spoken to brown and he didn't want to come, wanted too much money, had other plans. We don't know.

What we know is we have signed Evans and he is getting slammed before he has even had a training session.

If the lad has pace, that is something the squad lacks and could be valuable at times.

Key thing here is that it's a loan deal, to provide short-term cover while our academy lads develop and we see how T Briscoe pulls up after his nasty injury.

Most of our Academy backs are centre-paced rather than winger-paced. The ones that are quick lack physicality.

Also if we are allowing some forwards out on loan to Bradford, I would say the smoke signals here look like a bigger-name pack signing from NRL is on its way.

We also have a very young squad and Sinfield likes senior players with a professional attitude to set the tone for them, maybe Evans fits that bill too.

I don't think this loan signing has very much impact on Leeds for 2020 either way - it's the next signing which will be important once we free up this quota spot.

Totally agree Jim and reflects a lot of the other sensible views on here.

The downside is they spend a year out of the Leeds coaching regime and the cohesive team spirit you are trying to engender at a critical time in their development and you send them to a coach who idea of coaching was binned years ago. Kear is a very negative coach i.e. he coaches not to lose not coaches to win its a very different mind set. He had the biggest most expensive squad in the Championship last year but couldn't even get in the playoffs - I fail to see how sending players to Bradford in going to benefit them - unless of course you want lessons in punching an opponent in the nuts