Whether it was deliberate or not the Saints players thought it was deliberate. That and the Senior/Wilkin incident doesn't make for a harmonious England camp come the 4 nations.

It wasnt a harmonious camp anyway no matter was TS was saying on Sky commentary.

Senior wont be a part of it, thankfully for Wilkin

Doesn't help when the England skipper bangs on about hating Saints players (see someone's sig).

Having said that, Wilkin would be nowhere near my England team, even as a Saints fan.

why, senior won't be there? (granted he's still the best english centre in the league, but he's retired from internationals)

because the incident aggravated the animosity of both teams to each other.

So, because he was ok, it makes the tackle ok?

RL props don't shout in pain unless they're in bloody pain, and try getting someone to bend your upper arm the wrong way. Trust me, you'll soon tell them to stop.

See my post on your own forum (it's probably been moderated by now)

You don't suffer a chicken wing tackle like that and retain the ability to throw a long pass within a few minutes. I know, I've been there - playing both prop and hooker

which needs to be an on field thing only, if some players can't let go once the game is over, then they shouldn't be in the england camp.

Yes you do.

This is what I thought in real time. In slow motion, it looked worse. 1 match at most.

I wanted Eastmond to get a crack!

You're cool!