Whilst some don`t want improvements to their team to make them better and stronger.
You seem to miss the point.
I am saying I am delighted we might win something
What I want is to strengthen and the might may be more a given.

So you think Burrow Sinfield and McGuire have been on top of their game all season?

Says it all now.
Bet you would have got rid of Barrie Mac when he used to give so many penalties away and then get himself binned or sent off ?

Alot of leeds fans are stupid.

Just saying!

Everybody wants improvements despite what some might think, but the chance of snapping up players who'd improve your squad has been a lot tougher the last few years with good NRL signings a rarity nowadays. Add to it the financial strength that has come along in the shape of Warrington and Salford, with ourselves sticking to our well known more sensible dishing out of wages compared to others who'll offer more.

Despite this we've made some of the most impressive post season signings in recent years
2010 - Hardaker
2012 - Moon
2013 - Briscoe

That's big of you to admit that Flex

Would have preferred Charnley instead of Briscoe or kept BJB on the wing and signed a decent half back.
But yes Hardaker and Moon were good signings.
Sometimes a team like Leeds with the fan base it has must also dip into the coffers to make more than 3 decent signings over the last 4 years though.
Like I said I would be delighted if we do win something this year with the team we have.
All I want is for us to stay at the top and I'm not convinced this is sustainable with both Sinfield and McGuire as the pivots next year.

Don't recall Charnley being available unlike Briscoe. What 'decent' halfback btw.



It's not like football, we don't have mega funds to go splash about on transfer fees. We've also got to think about how much money it's going to take to keep the ones we have. Watkins and Hardaker are going to require big contracts, if the likes of Sutcliffe, Ward and Singleton become the players we hope then that's another big chunk to keep them. Add to it the likes of players who still have a decent few years in them that are key like Hall, Ablett, Delaney and Moon. Then what if the likes of Minchella, England, R.Ward, Walters become first teamers and the young lad called Cameron Smith who some of the guys on here are saying will be a big deal.



It might not be but as pointed out we are and have been in a tougher transfer era. During Tony Smith's time we brought in Lauitiiti, Webb, Peacock, Ellis, Donald, Leuluai, Toopi, Bai......if the same settings of today were in place back then with the financial gap between the NRL ever increasing and some SL clubs having a bit more financial weight to throw around then how many of those signings do you think we'd have made?

Just for balance, we also signed Thackray, Millard and Mark O'Neill in 2006 under Tony Smith - none were particularly thrilling even at the time. Buderus in 2009 and Brent Webb in 2007 were our last 'star' signings from the NRL.

Having said that the overall quality of NRL signings has diminished significantly across SL. We've signed Cuthbertson for next year, and he wouldn't even rate as highly here as Mark O'Neill did at the time he was signed. The only real quality NRL players to be likely to move now are due to exceptional circumstances such as the Storm salary cap (Finch et al to Wigan) or Locke getting upset at the Warriors. Mind you, Lauti'iti was in the latter boat as well.

I'm not that upset re the number of players going to SL from the NRL - it was at ridiculous levels previously, and allowed teams quick fixes to problem positions. But it is a bit sad that more of the better quality players are unlikely to play in SL nowadays.

There is a difference between quality signings, and signings from the NRL. Every quality signing doesn't have to be from there. Some of the biggest dissapointments have been from the NRL.

Take Leeds over last 15 years from over here external to club, some of our best, Harris, Senior, Peacock, Ellis, Hardacker. Only one of those was actually available.

In same period, only really Lauititi and Buderus can be classed as super star signings from across the pond. The rest were just your average player who turned out to have some quality, much like the picture BrisbaneRhino paints of Cuthbertson.

Webb wasn't exactly average before he came.

Webb would be classed as a super signing when we got hold of him. He was NZ's fullback at that time and in his best form was magical.