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Quote: UnleashKeith Carnegie "I can see him going out on loan the season after next too, giving him two years SL experience to come back in and replace an off contract Webb.'"


He'll be 22 next year - if he's not good enough for Leeds at that point I suspect it'll be time to move on and make room for the next "next big thing"

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Quote: Vic Mackey "He'll be 22 next year - if he's not good enough for Leeds at that point I suspect it'll be time to move on and make room for the next "next big thing"'"


I think backs and forwards differ in this respect. With a back IMO it's easier to tell at an early age whether they are going to have what it takes to cut the mustard at a top club. If they aren't kicking down the door demanding selection with their ability by the time they get to 22-23 then it's not going to happen.

Forwards however need time to mature physically. You need only look at Jamie Peacock for evidence that a forward who isn't playing regularly at 21-22 can still go on and have a successful career in the game.

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Quote: G1 "I wasn't impressed with his speed when that young whippersnapper Sinfield rounded him at Hull.
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That was rugby nous not a foot race unless you think Sinfield is actually faster than Broughton?

I prefer to acknowledge his performance at Belle Vue and in the Headingley 9's for examples of his pace.

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Quote: tvoc "That was rugby nous not a foot race unless you think Sinfield is actually faster than Broughton?

I prefer to acknowledge his performance at Belle Vue and in the Headingley 9's for examples of his pace.'"
I've no idea which is faster. I do know I saw Sinfield outpace him to the corner with relative ease.

I can see why you'd rather not acknowledge his performance against us. Wasn't that the one when he tackled himself and fell over with the line at his mercy?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "If they aren't kicking down the door demanding selection with their ability by the time they get to 22-23 then it's not going to happen.'"


But he could easily be ready for SL, it's just that Brent Webb is blocking his way.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "I think backs and forwards differ in this respect. With a back IMO it's easier to tell at an early age whether they are going to have what it takes to cut the mustard at a top club. If they aren't kicking down the door demanding selection with their ability by the time they get to 22-23 then it's not going to happen.

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That's my take as well.

To be fair, I think this is what the cap was brought in for. If he has got talent but he's behind a world class Webb for the 1 shirt and not in the running for a wing spot then he should be out playing SL for another club in some shape or form. It's got to be good for the game.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "But he could easily be ready for SL, it's just that Brent Webb is blocking his way.'"


In which case other clubs are going to be sniffing around him for a more permanent move, and the lad himself is probably going to want to be on his way by that point rather than sit in the reserves - much like Danny Allan was.

Certainly if Webb gets his contract renewed I'd be surprised to see BJB stick around.

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Quote: G1 "I've no idea which is faster. I do know I saw Sinfield outpace him to the corner with relative ease.

I can see why you'd rather not acknowledge his performance against us. Wasn't that the one when he tackled himself and fell over with the line at his mercy?'"


I saw Sinfield use men in support of his run and a change of direction to beat Broughton to the corner

From what I've seen of both I know which one I think is faster in a foot race and it isn't the Leeds captain.

So are we to take it you don't rate Jodie Broughton?

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When Webbs contracts up,Lee Smith should be ready to return from yawnion!!

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Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "When Webbs contracts up,Lee Smith should be ready to return from yawnion!!'"

IIRC another 2 yrs mate!!

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Quote: tvoc "

So are we to take it you don't rate Jodie Broughton?'"
You'd be wrong. I've stated on this very thread that I hope he's a first choice winger at Leeds by 2011.

He's shown nothing so far to suggest he merits a wing spot ahead of Hall or Donald.

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Quote: G1 "
I can see why you'd rather not acknowledge his performance against us. Wasn't that the one when he tackled himself and fell over with the line at his mercy?'"


If Stains hadn't made so many late attempts to win the award, that would have scooped 'Funniest Moment Of The Season' by a mile.

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its a good break for him he might get a better contract with first time

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Quote: joe the poe "its a good break for him he might get a better contract with first time'"

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He's still got 2/3yrs left on his current one!!

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Quote: G1 "You'd be wrong.'"


It was a question rather than a statement.

Quote: G1 "He's shown nothing so far to suggest he merits a wing spot ahead of Hall or Donald.'"


Difficult for him to show when his first grade opportunities at Leeds are so limited.

Perhaps had Leeds not busted the import quota for 2010 by re-signing Donald we'd have seen. As it is will Leeds now lose Broughton and if they do.... for what?

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