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TBH I think Ablett is a better centre than he is back rower, not that I don't think he is a poor back rower.

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Quote: G1 "TBH I think Ablett is a better centre than he is back rower, not that I don't think he is a poor back rower.'"


Double negative surely?
Doesn't what you wrote mean that you do think he's a poor back rower?
Not what I think you meant to say but with lawyers you never know.

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Quote: Old Feller "Double negative surely?
Doesn't what you wrote mean that you do think he's a poor back rower?
Not what I think you meant to say but with lwayers you never know.'"

Good spot. Double negative not intended. I do think he's a good back rower. I think he's a better centre.

And it's "lawyers", btw. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: G1 "Good spot. Double negative not intended. I do think he's a good back rower. I think he's a better centre.

And it's "lawyers", btw.
It is now.
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From rugby league weekly Sadler seems to think the tonga deal is on, might hear something by end of week, but dependant if tonga actually wants to play SL.

Didn't he play SOO this year. Can't see it happening g personally but it would be a very good back line if we pull it off

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Quote: G1 "TBH I think Ablett is a better centre than he is back rower, not that I don't think he is a poor back rower.'"

I have always thought ablett was a better back row forward , however i tend to agree with u now, with what I have seen last year.

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Willie Tonga was a quality player last time I saw him, which was a few years ago. He isn't too old, so if he's fit and committed then he could be a good signing. Provided he came for the right reasons, I'd be happy enough with him.

I'm still not sure whether or not Ablett is better as a back rower or a centre. I still think he sees himself in the pack. Either way, as a wide-running back rower, he's added some angles of running and passing skills to his game that can make him a dangerous option in the attacking line. It'd be like having two centres really.

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As others have said, bringing Tonga in to allow Ablett get back in the pack would be like a double signing

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Would the conditioners at Leeds try to keep Ablett's weight down for centre duties and bulk him up slightly if he was likely to spend more time in the pack?
I've no idea whether this is the case, or even feasible.

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Quote: Clearwing "Would the conditioners at Leeds try to keep Ablett's weight down for centre duties and bulk him up slightly if he was likely to spend more time in the pack?
I've no idea whether this is the case, or even feasible.'"


Or even necessary.

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Quote: El Diablo "Or even necessary.'"


Quite. I was wondering whether his effectiveness in each position was affected by weight/conditioning. I'd hoped someone more knowledgable than myself could cast some light.

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Quote: Clearwing "Quite. I was wondering whether his effectiveness in each position was affected by weight/conditioning. I'd hoped someone more knowledgable than myself could cast some light.'"


Don`t be silly Clearwing.
Look at Ryan Hall`s weight and he is a centre playing on the wing for now isn`t he?
Seriously I don`t think there is much difference weight wise between the likes of Delaney, JJB or Ablett compared to Watkins.

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Quote: chapylad "Don`t be silly Clearwing.
Look at Ryan Hall`s weight and he is a centre playing on the wing for now isn`t he?
Seriously I don`t think there is much difference weight wise between the likes of Delaney, JJB or Ablett compared to Watkins.'"


I'm not asking whether he weighs the same as other players playing in those positions. I'm wondering whether how well he plays in a given position is affected by his weight (or any other player for that matter). I read a piece by Usain Bolt's coach a while back who made the point that if Bolt weighed half a stone heavier, not only would he not have broken the world records he has, neither would he have even placed in the olympics. Obviously Bolt's is an extreme case because the margins are so fine but I did wonder whether conditioners in RL attempted to tweak players' weights on the basis of what roles they were being asked to perform.
Oh, and Hall's carrying far too much beef to be a decent winger icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Clearwing "I'm not asking whether he weighs the same as other players playing in those positions. I'm wondering whether how well he plays in a given position is affected by his weight (or any other player for that matter). I read a piece by Usain Bolt's coach a while back who made the point that if Bolt weighed half a stone heavier, not only would he not have broken the world records he has, neither would he have even placed in the olympics. Obviously Bolt's is an extreme case because the margins are so fine but I did wonder whether conditioners in RL attempted to tweak players' weights on the basis of what roles they were being asked to perform.
Oh, and Hall's carrying far too much beef to be a decent winger Sorry mate thought you were talking weight.
Anyway Hall would be much better in the SR so what do you know icon_wink.gif

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If Ablett moved permanently to the centres I'd expect him to work as hard as possible on his footwork, as sometimes in defence he looks like a second row in the centres - i.e. a bit immobile. Other than that, I wouldn't have thought he'd need to do too much different, as he seems to be a good build for either position.

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