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Child is relatively a very good ref; one of the top 10 in the country. How many of the bigots & keyboard warriors on here are in the top 10 of their chosen profession? How many would still be in the same employment if, every time they turn up for work, they had a rabid mob screaming abuse at them or making unfounded homophobic statements against them on social media?

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As a side issue to his performance, I often wonder if a hearty rendition of the Referee is an Onanist (or words to that effect) endears the home crowd to the official and if it affects, consciously or otherwise, how he see the game and the transgressions of both sides?

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Headingley is fast turning into Knowsley Rd - how many times did we hear "Forward" last night and the calling of James Child at the end of the first half has no place in a sport that prides itself on its family environment.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Headingley is fast turning into Knowsley Rd - how many times did we hear "Forward" last night and the calling of James Child at the end of the first half has no place in a sport that prides itself on its family environment.'"


What were these chants? I only heard the singing of "all we want is a decent referee" and the usual "the referee is a Wan...."

If so it's exactly what as a young kid I heard being chanted and worse at headingley in the late 70's early 80's.

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I used to stand on the terraces in the south stand for over twenty years. The mantra in those days was ' gerrom onside' . This usually started after our second play the ball.
I think the southstand brigade adds a lot of atmosphere to games. Whilst I know sometimes they go over the top language wise, a lot of other clubs supporters are envious.
I seem to remember a few years ago some on the warrington board asking ,why the wire fans could not get behind the team as per the south stand brigade.

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Quote: Ferdy "What were these chants? I only heard the singing of "all we want is a decent referee" and the usual "the referee is a Wan...."

If so it's exactly what as a young kid I heard being chanted and worse at headingley in the late 70's early 80's.'"


We are no longer in the 70s and the 80s where sport was a male preserve and the use of that type of language was the norm - we have moved on hopefully in 40 years. Maybe we should run repeats of Love they Neighbour?

There is no need for that - an indication of a desperate fan base spoilt by success that seem incapable of accepting the team isn't the power house it once was.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I used to stand on the terraces in the south stand for over twenty years. The mantra in those days was ' gerrom onside' . This usually started after our second play the ball.
I think the southstand brigade adds a lot of atmosphere to games. Whilst I know sometimes they go over the top language wise, a lot of other clubs supporters are envious.
I seem to remember a few years ago some on the warrington board asking ,why the wire fans could not get behind the team as per the south stand brigade.'"


I am not disputing what the south stand add to the atmosphere but I never thought it would shout forward so many times in a game - not team pushes that envelope more than Leeds

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Quote: Sal Paradise "We are no longer in the 70s and the 80s where sport was a male preserve and the use of that type of language was the norm - we have moved on hopefully in 40 years. Maybe we should run repeats of Love they Neighbour?

There is no need for that - an indication of a desperate fan base spoilt by success that seem incapable of accepting the team isn't the power house it once was.'"


Rugby League - on the terraces at least - was not a male preserve in the 70s and 80s either. "The man's game for the whole family".

I wasn't at the game last night but if the only chants were "oh what a referee" and "the referee's a wnker" then you need to get a grip. Not only have those chants been going on for 40 years, they're also heard almost every single week at every single ground in the country. To specifically say "it makes me ashamed to he associated with the Rhinos" is bizarre.

As a side-note, your notion that women would be uniquely offended by a bit of co language, and only men are capable of using it, is deeply sexist and well suited to your On The Buses mind set.

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Quote: craigizzard "Rugby League - on the terraces at least - was not a male preserve in the 70s and 80s either. "The man's game for the whole family".

I wasn't at the game last night but if the only chants were "oh what a referee" and "the referee's a wnker" then you need to get a grip. Not only have those chants been going on for 40 years, they're also heard almost every single week at every single ground in the country. To specifically say "it makes me ashamed to he associated with the Rhinos" is bizarre.

As a side-note, your notion that women would be uniquely offended by a bit of co language, and only men are capable of using it, is deeply sexist and well suited to your On The Buses mind set.'"


The woman behind me was using far more offensive language than I heard from the SS singers! Not great when you are sitting with a youngster.

I actually don't have a problem with the W** chant - it shows frustration with a poor ref - As long as it is not overused. After all any competitive sport is passionate and supporters pay a lot of money and deserve decent officials. Don't get me wrong everyone makes a mistake but not as regular as JC

It amazes me to hear about the homophobia element - I have been at most of the matches in the past few years and have not heard anything being chanted by any team.

James Child is not the greatest ref in the world and it amazes me that the powers that be do not do anything to help him progress.

It particularly amazes me that we seem to see the same ref on a regular basis and bearing in mind the reception he has received then I cannot believe the RFL are not actually provoking the situation

Allocating refs should be simple - A strong panel of refs who are allocated games to ensure that they are rotated around the grounds/ teams evenly. That way we all get a good/poor/biased/unbiased ref on an equal basis

Or am I being simplistic

I did not the reception he got when he first came out to warm up - He was with a trainee I think??? He did whisper in the trainees ear - probably to suggest that they may not want a career as a ref?

Having said that, I do respect him for having the courage to come out week after week and face the 'mob culture' fans can often display

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I am not disputing what the south stand add to the atmosphere but I never thought it would shout forward so many times in a game - not team pushes that envelope more than Leeds'"

Try being in the East Stand at Hull KR. Louder, more passionate, more bad language and equally as many cries of forward per game as the South Stand at Leeds.

Childs had a good game last night and none of the very few incorrect decisions he made cost Leeds any points. This is not always the case with his performances however.

I watched the game on Sky and their commentary team were all at one with his decisions. I was also. I have spoken to a couple of Rhinos fans who live near me in Pickering today and their match synopsis was - "Brilliant game, hell for leather for the full 80, best team won."

If Rovers had shown the same passion and desire and played at the same tempo as Cas did last night at Wembley CC final 3 weeks ago, we would at least have registered some points. The Leeds back row, so fantastic during that game were cackamallabab last night.

Don't like the 70s and 80s politically incorrect analogy too as to suggest that we have moved on as a society and you cannot say now what you could say then and get away with it is one huge filipp to the excess that we as a nation have progressed along this difficult route since then.

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There were plenty of Cas fans weren't too happy with Child in the first half either! Also there was an inebriated young Cas lady on the West Terrace with a freakishly loud voice who shouted "(Ben) Roberts, you've got a nice ar5e!" as he lined up for a restart. Frankly I was appalled at her behaviour. icon_wink.gif

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There was a classic from Hemmings last night when he said "the south stand are screaming for a penalty but James Child has ignored them this time." You will always get "the referee's a winker" chant but I've never heard it come over so loud on tv as it did last night.

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Seems Leeds have more of a problem with Wah Jimmy than Wah Jimmy has with Leeds.

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Watching Saints v Wigan, I never knew Robert Hicks was gay... curtain.gif

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Quote: Him "Watching Saints v Wigan, I never knew Robert Hicks was gay...
Who knows, he might be. It certainly helped Child get ahead. icon_smile.gif

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