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Toulouse by 2, Leeds by 26, London by 46 and Widnes by 2.

London in the automatic promotion spot with Toulouse v HKR in the MPG... here’s hoping.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "But yeah - Hull were always going to be playing in SL next season regardless of losing all 7 games - the same cannot be said of Leeds. Champions to middle 8's or CC winners to top 8. The only person who doesn't see the former as a bigger fall than the latter is you - you really are a bonehead.
The size of the fall was never the question. Ask Hull fans if they feel like 2018 has been somewhat calamitous for the club and I'm sure 99.999% will say yes.

It's a very weak minded person who can't admit when they're wrong Sal, choosing instead to dig in and go full Trump.
You never cease to amaze in that regard.

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Quote: loiner81 "The size of the fall was never the question. Ask Hull fans if they feel like 2018 has been somewhat calamitous for the club and I'm sure 99.999% will say yes.

It's a very weak minded person who can't admit when they're wrong Sal, choosing instead to dig in and go full Trump.
You never cease to amaze in that regard.'"


This discussion started because as usual you tried to be a smart and suggest that because Hull had had a bad season that somehow made the embarrassing season Leeds have had somewhat less embarrassing. I merely pointed out you cannot compare the two - something you have now admitted to be correct.

I cannot understand why you have kept digging - but then when you are as stubborn as you are then therein lies the answer

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And another one disappears up the same a-hole!

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Congratulations Hull FC on only losing 14 of their final 16 games of 2018, thus avoiding having a truly calamitous season. eusa_clap.gif

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "This discussion started because as usual you tried to be a smart booty and suggest that because Hull had had a bad season that somehow made the embarrassing season Leeds have had somewhat less embarrassing. I merely pointed out you cannot compare the two - something you have now admitted to be correct.

I cannot understand why you have kept digging - but then when you are as stubborn as you are then therein lies the answer'"


No, it started when you posted this nugget...

Quote: Sal Paradise "Other clubs have had equal injury issues e.g. Hull and they haven't suffered anywhere near the calamatous season Leeds have had.
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And I called you out on it. That you dug in and have doubled down it every week since then, as Hull kept losing week after week, just proves my point.

Enjoy the off season Sal. The break will do you good.

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Quote: loiner81 "No, it started when you posted this nugget...

And I called you out on it. That you dug in and have doubled down it every week since then, as Hull kept losing week after week, just proves my point.

Enjoy the off season Sal. The break will do you good.'"


I stand by that - Hull made the top 8 - even their coach has said the players had nothing to play for after the split. Despite not having either of the half backs available virtually the whole season plus significant long-term injuries to key personnel they managed to make the top 8 and secure SL status for 2019.

Leeds on the other hand didn't make the 8 and have been visiting the likes of Halifax and London. Yesterday they lost for the first time in 38 years to a club that started the season in a lower division. Many on here are saying this is the worst team in the modern era.

Only you thinks the two things are equally calamitous icon_biggrin.gif - you have been seldom seen on here this season because even you cannot defend the indefensible so the only thing you can do is use Hull as a deflection from the atrocious season Leeds have had.

No doubt we will see you again in 2020 when Leeds start winning again in a regular basis - perhaps by then your fascination with trying to bait me will have waned icon_biggrin.gif adios Loiner

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "I stand by that - Hull made the top 8 - even their coach has said the players had nothing to play for after the split. Despite not having either of the half backs available virtually the whole season plus significant long-term injuries to key personnel they managed to make the top 8 and secure SL status for 2019.

Leeds on the other hand didn't make the 8 and have been visiting the likes of Halifax and London. Yesterday they lost for the first time in 38 years to a club that started the season in a lower division. Many on here are saying this is the worst team in the modern era.

Only you thinks the two things are equally calamitous
Wonder how you'd feel if Leeds were top 4 contenders (they were) before losing some key players to injury (like Leeds) and going on a 14 losses out of 16 game run (or 12 losses in Leeds' case) and blaming "the system" for them having nothing to play for? Dress it up how you like Sal, they've had a disaster of a season and it's nothing to do with the Super 8s, since 9 of those 16 games were played before the 8s even began.

That's my final post of 2018. If this forum makes it through the off season I'll see you in 2019.

All the best, Merry Xmas and all that.

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So is London going to win in Toronto on Sunday ?
Is Bradford going to lose to Workington and have to play again against the Championship bottom club Swinton Lions?

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Quote: Frosties. "Toulouse by 2, Leeds by 26, London by 46 and Widnes by 2.

London in the automatic promotion spot with Toulouse v HKR in the MPG... here’s hoping.'"


You didn’t do very well there then did you?

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Can’t say he didn’t stick his neck out though...

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I stand by that - Hull made the top 8 - even their coach has said the players had nothing to play for after the split. Despite not having either of the half backs available virtually the whole season plus significant long-term injuries to key personnel they managed to make the top 8 and secure SL status for 2019.

Leeds on the other hand didn't make the 8 and have been visiting the likes of Halifax and London. Yesterday they lost for the first time in 38 years to a club that started the season in a lower division. Many on here are saying this is the worst team in the modern era.

....'"


Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Omar Little "Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team
The 1996 squad was probably worse than 2016, but I'm not sure about the team that played in the Middle 8s this year. I think this was genuinely our worst team I've seen in my lifetime.

If you don't believe me, look at the team we had from 1996. Some of the players left or were injured for large parts of the season, but hey, that's true of 2018 too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Leeds_RLFC_season

The likes of Barrie McDermott, Harvey Howard, Adrian Morley, Mike Forshaw, Nick Fozzard and Terry Newton (all squad regulars with lots of appearances) would demolish our current pack. Even Mick Shaw would give Brad Dwyer and Parcell a run for their money... Okay, not many of those names lived up to the reputations they would go on to develop, but that team is light years better than what we have this year.

The less said about Carl Hall et al the better...
Quote: Omar Little "Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team
The 1996 squad was probably worse than 2016, but I'm not sure about the team that played in the Middle 8s this year. I think this was genuinely our worst team I've seen in my lifetime.

If you don't believe me, look at the team we had from 1996. Some of the players left or were injured for large parts of the season, but hey, that's true of 2018 too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Leeds_RLFC_season

The likes of Barrie McDermott, Harvey Howard, Adrian Morley, Mike Forshaw, Nick Fozzard and Terry Newton (all squad regulars with lots of appearances) would demolish our current pack. Even Mick Shaw would give Brad Dwyer and Parcell a run for their money... Okay, not many of those names lived up to the reputations they would go on to develop, but that team is light years better than what we have this year.

The less said about Carl Hall et al the better...


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Well done London, and Danny Ward!
Toronto are a typical Paul Rowley team, the the guy has no idea how to pace a season, Toronto have been poor throughout the 8s,similar to Leigh a few years ago.

Mind you, both teams would need at least 10 new players to avoid relegation next season.

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Great win for London. Good to have them back in super League again. Its a shame the Toronto couldn't come up, as their investment and rise has been one of the few good news stories about RL in recent times. Hopefully another season in the championship will prove their mettle and they can make it next season and be stronger for it.

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