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Quote: Him "I used to work in Higher Education too. Tigertot and Exeter Rhino are correct.'"


I used to work in the Department of Education. I know a lot has changed since then but it is my understanding that Colleges do still provide HE courses and receive funding from the HEFCE to cover this. I stand to be corrected of course.

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Quote: craigizzard "Irish citizenship is not so as to live in Ireland...it's to have an EU passport so as to give my children the sort of options you've enjoyed in deciding where to live, work or study. It's also an insurance should things go really tits up here and turn from Weimar to something even worse. Children and grandchildren of immigrants have long experience of needing to keep an extra passport and a suitcase packed.

I'll give a quick example of you getting something baldly wrong just from your last post. You stated the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world. It isn't. It's the 6th, and falling. As of last week. Wonder how that happened?'"


Fear not this country will provide many worldwide opportunities for your children and grandchildren.

Surely you can come up with a better one than this after what you said. However when I first said we were the 5th largest we were, and I believe once calm returns after the panic in the markets we will the overtake France once again if not on the back of a rising pound it will be because of the trade we gain from the rest of the world. Chin up icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto " it is my understanding that Colleges do still provide HE courses '"


They can do but have to get their degrees validated by Universities.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Can't be cheaper than developing your own - surely?

English players are expensive because there are so few of the quality required that those that are of quality demand a premium. When you look at England there wasn't a world class player in that side.

Its easier to let someone else do all the hard work in developing players and then poach them with all your TV monies. Perhaps there should be minimum quota of English players that have to start a game say 6?

How many of the real top world players are playing in the PL?'"


Hazard, Aguero, Silva, Ozil, Sanchez, Coutouis, De Gea, Fabregas, Toure, Coutinho, De Bruyne, Cech, Kompany to name a few. Others could be named but might be met with question marks so I won't bother.

Big thing is that the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern feature a lot of top players in the squads, but if you look past those couple of top teams towards the rest of their leagues then not so much.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Hazard, Aguero, Silva, Ozil, Sanchez, Coutouis, De Gea, Fabregas, Toure, Coutinho, De Bruyne, Cech, Kompany to name a few. Others could be named but might be met with question marks so I won't bother.

Big thing is that the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern feature a lot of top players in the squads, but if you look past those couple of top teams towards the rest of their leagues then not so much.'"


So not that many really and how many of them are Suarez, Mesi, Ronaldo class i.e truly world class? About as many as Barca and Real Madrid combined?

Given as you say La Liga doesn't possess strength in depth it must have been a surprise that of the 4 teams that competed in the finals of the European competitions this season 3 were Spanish? The Spanish have won the Europa league 3 times out of the last 4 - not featuring either Barca or Real Madrid and the champions league the last 3 times. If the league doesn't have strength in depth but can compete at this level what does it really say the PL?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "So not that many really and how many of them are Suarez, Mesi, Ronaldo class i.e truly world class? About as many as Barca and Real Madrid combined?

Given as you say La Liga doesn't possess strength in depth it must have been a surprise that of the 4 teams that competed in the finals of the European competitions this season 3 were Spanish? The Spanish have won the Europa league 3 times out of the last 4 - not featuring either Barca or Real Madrid and the champions league the last 3 times. If the league doesn't have strength in depth but can compete at this level what does it really say the PL?'"


Last time I checked both leagues contained 20 teams so pointing out the strength of 4 top teams doesn't disprove anything about the strength in depth from top to BOTTOM. I don't think anyone would argue that Barca and Madrid are stronger than our strongest teams but that isn't the point.

Pointing to three players (Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez) from just two clubs again doesn't tell us anything about the leagues as a whole.

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England football "oh we don't have a winter break so we're too tired"...."oh too many foreigners so we have too small a player pool to pick from"...."oh the grass roots at junior level is all wrong"

A Wales team made up from Premier League and quite a few Championship players barring Bale that has all the obstacles of above and they've made it to the Semi Finals unlike the bunch of excuse making prima donnas in the Emgland camp.

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Quote: ThePrinter "England football "oh we don't have a winter break so we're too tired"...."oh too many foreigners so we have too small a player pool to pick from"...."oh the grass roots at junior level is all wrong"

A Wales team made up from Premier League and quite a few Championship players barring Bale that has all the obstacles of above and they've made it to the Semi Finals unlike the bunch of excuse making prima donnas in the Emgland camp.'"


Yet England still beat them - bizarre.

Wales have great team spirit and Bale/Ramsey apart they don't seem so naturally talented as the English players so concentrate on keeping it simple. Oh they don't have manager who doesn't have a clue. icon_biggrin.gif

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coleman failed as a manager elsewhere. in any team sport if you have a coach, who may not be top class, but who can organise and set out a hard to beat game plan, and a team who can follow that to the letter, you have a good chance. in RL I guess john kear would be colemans equivalant

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Watched "Mike Bassett, England Manager" last night. I think England should definitely have adopted the Christmas Pudding formation against Iceland.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Yet England still beat them - bizarre.

Wales have great team spirit and Bale/Ramsey apart they don't seem so naturally talented as the English players so concentrate on keeping it simple. Oh they don't have manager who doesn't have a clue.
It's interesting to note that as Fulham manager Coleman got sacked when he had them deep in relegation trouble. Lawrie Sanchez came in and saved them that season but was gone mid way through the next season and Roy Hodgson came in saved them, finished 7th in his first full season and took them to a Europa League final where they lost narrowly to Athletico Madrid in extra time.

So Hodgson took a team that Chris Coleman almost relegated to the Europa League final in 3 years.

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Quote: DHM "Watched "Mike Bassett, England Manager" last night. I think England should definitely have adopted the Christmas Pudding formation against Iceland.'"


Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse icon_lol.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "It's interesting to note that as Fulham manager Coleman got sacked when he had them deep in relegation trouble. Lawrie Sanchez came in and saved them that season but was gone mid way through the next season and Roy Hodgson came in saved them, finished 7th in his first full season and took them to a Europa League final where they lost narrowly to Athletico Madrid in extra time.

So Hodgson took a team that Chris Coleman almost relegated to the Europa League final in 3 years.'"


Perhaps one of them has learned something from that experience and has improved as a manager from that set back and one of them - the less said the better would you not agree?

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse
I think Harry Kane's been overshadowed in the embarrassing set pieces stakes by Simone Zaza's penalty for Italy last night.....good god what was he thinking with that run up? He looked like a horse trotting in a dressage competition.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIM_zn_O84
Quote: Charlie Sheen "Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse
I think Harry Kane's been overshadowed in the embarrassing set pieces stakes by Simone Zaza's penalty for Italy last night.....good god what was he thinking with that run up? He looked like a horse trotting in a dressage competition.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIM_zn_O84


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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse
Four, four, f******g two!

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