Like both of them, they complement each other well aswel, if we look at them as a pair, i certainly think they have the ability to be first team players.

Harry Smith is a very good half in this batch just announced, he could well be better than both. Him and Dylan Hutchinson are a quality 6 & 7 in this intake, a bit like Sinfield and McCormack, they fit well together, Smith the control at 7 with Hutchinson the X Factor//Run threat at 6

Between the 4 of them, its the first time in a long time i'v been excited by the Quality and depth we have at half back in our system.

As always though, need to keep working hard and have a bit of luck on their side.

Any updates Tom if Butterill is still leaving?
Too many jobs for the old boys in the past at Leeds, with regards to them being given the role as head of Academy,when clearly Butterill is the man for the job

don't know to be fair biff hope not? wasn't something out this week about him doing a job at the uni? lad develops kids year on year but its within the academy that they never fulfill their potential in fact most go backwards? wouldn't surprise me if he left who could blame him if its jobs for the boys as you suggest

How come you cannot raise a reserve side to play Wigan this week? That is very worrying for a club of Leeds standing!

The reserves needs scrapping anyway.

Butterill is coaching Leeds Beckett's RL team next season, taking over from JJB. It's a link between LBU & Rhinos; he's till got his Rhinos role as I understand it.

To what end?

What would that achieve?

I really hope that he does stay at the club as he does a fantastic job of producing talented junior players.
He should be the head of the whole scholarship and academy systems IMO

It would reduce the amount of games, and expenditure for clubs, and stop a player pool that isn't growing being diluted further.

It’s going to grow even less if players don’t have the option of playing for the reserves. A team like Leeds should have no
Problem finding a reserve team, where has the money gone?

Please Zig, Don’t start another where has the money gone thread on here.

Agree though it’s pretty poor that Leeds can’t get a reserve team out.

Sorry Sir it was not my intention to stir up a hornets nest. I love rugby league and it concerned me when a team of Leeds’ standing are not able to fulfill their fixtures at any level. The future of the game looks bleak!

The club probably could get a reserve team together, they just don't want to. It serves no purpose.

Either way, Seems pretty poor if we can and can’t be bothered or can’t raise one.