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1. Myler
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10. Prior
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I'd like us too Use Tetevano off the bench for impact he's done that all the way through his career in NRL that's his best use for me as a impact prop. I also wouldn't start him in same starting 13 as Bentley I'd rotate them both there both aggressive players and try too be enforcers on the pitch but I wouldn't want them both on at same time I'd stagger them both so that we get good levels of aggression throughout the full game. The bench is gonna be tough too choose for Agar I think Cam Smith, Broadbent and Gannon probably deserve too be in the 17 somewhere most weeks but if everyone is fit and in form some players will be disappointed I reckon.

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Quote: Jrrhino "1. Myler
2. Fusitu'a
3. Newman
4. L.Sutcliffe
5. Handley
6. Sezer
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8. Oledzki
9. Leeming
10. Prior
11. Mellor
12. Martin
13. Bentley

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15. Tetevano
16. Holroyd
17. Austin

I'd like us too Use Tetevano off the bench for impact he's done that all the way through his career in NRL that's his best use for me as a impact prop. I also wouldn't start him in same starting 13 as Bentley I'd rotate them both there both aggressive players and try too be enforcers on the pitch but I wouldn't want them both on at same time I'd stagger them both so that we get good levels of aggression throughout the full game. The bench is gonna be tough too choose for Agar I think Cam Smith, Broadbent and Gannon probably deserve too be in the 17 somewhere most weeks but if everyone is fit and in form some players will be disappointed I reckon.'"


I like that team and bench, only change I would make is Dwyer out and smith in. I also think Walker will get back to being starting full back. I don’t think we need Dwyer from the bench with Gale, Sezer and Austin. We should focus less on Dwyer injecting something and focus on quick play the balls and using the quality we now have out wide to score points. Dwyer stunts that game plan as he can’t pass and he disrupts the rhythm of the team when he is on.

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Whatever 17 Agar picks, please can we just have Tetevano as a prop and stop messing about with him at 13. Swap him with Prior.

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Some really strong looking selections and it's hard to argue with any of them. One name who I don't think figures in any is James Donaldson. He wouldn't be in my team either, but I reckon he's pretty short odds to be in Agar's first seventeen of the season.

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Quote: Swoggy Loiner "Whatever 17 Agar picks, please can we just have Tetevano as a prop and stop messing about with him at 13. Swap him with Prior.'"


Don’t think either should play 13. Both are here as props so that’s where they should play. We have smith at 13, also bentley could play there as well I think.

Most agree we are a prop light, the way to combat that is to play props we have as props and rotate them as the game goes on.

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Quote: Lprhino "Don’t think either should play 13. Both are here as props so that’s where they should play. We have smith at 13, also bentley could play there as well I think.

Most agree we are a prop light, the way to combat that is to play props we have as props and rotate them as the game goes on.'"
I would start Smith at 13 play Bentley in the second row.
We need a bit of luck regarding injuries at prop.

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Agar like most coaches now sees 13 as an additional prop. I wish that wasn't the case but we can't unilaterally disarm in that respect.

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I miss watching Dave Heron play, he was a proper loose forward.

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With the evolution of the full back and hooker positions, there's no need for another pivot/creative player at 13.

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Quote: Jack Burton "With the evolution of the full back and hooker positions, there's no need for another pivot/creative player at 13.'"


I'm not sure I fully agree with that. If your Hooker can provide quick accurate ball on either side of the ruck, then you need three of 1, 6, 7, 13 to be ball players and the other to be a roaming runner. that way you can easily play both sides of the field with multiple threats. If you effectively play 3 props then you lose a ball player or a runner and you become predictable and easy to defend. A modern day Loose Forward should be able to plug the defensive line gaps and play ball too. This requires you to have 4 out and out props in your 17 man squad each week and that's actually where I think Leeds will fall down this coming season.

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Quote: batleyrhino "I'm not sure I fully agree with that. If your Hooker can provide quick accurate ball on either side of the ruck, then you need three of 1, 6, 7, 13 to be ball players and the other to be a roaming runner. that way you can easily play both sides of the field with multiple threats. If you effectively play 3 props then you lose a ball player or a runner and you become predictable and easy to defend. A modern day Loose Forward should be able to plug the defensive line gaps and play ball too. This requires you to have 4 out and out props in your 17 man squad each week and that's actually where I think Leeds will fall down this coming season.'"

I think Cam Smith is your modern day loose. Both big and skilful. He, like a few others, just needs to get the bit between his teeth and go out and prove it.

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Cam isn’t small is he? Filling out quite nicely. I wouldn’t say he has a high-strike D but he puts himself about and usually gets his job done. I still think there is a role for a ball-playing big guy down the middle. That offload in heavy traffic can be just as devastating as the silky six playing the margins.

You could argue that all forwards should be able to pass in the modern game but it’s statistics really: there are far fewer blokes who are fit, mobile and 18 stone than are “normal” dimensions but skilful.

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I don't think 13 necessarily is another prop I think with the speed of the ruck now and new six again rules teams have a 13 who is mobile with good hands look at the top teams in NRL Penrith have Isaah Yeo, Souths have Cam Murray, Manly Have J.Trobojvic. even in SL saints use Knowles there I think Cam Smith fits the perfect mold of a modern day 13 he just needs too nail it down now.

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Pardon my intrusion on your board but, i think if you guys can have much better luck on the injury side, i think you will be the one club who can challenge for honours again, and I honestly believe that i'ts you guys who can trouble Saints.

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Having Smith or Bentley at LF also solves the issue of our missing prop forward as we use Tetevano there, with Holroyd too and then Muizz Mustapha is useful.

If Leeds were willing to part with 60k, they’d have Ebon Scurr for 2022 too

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