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Quote: chapylad "and it effects his game.

Haha you might be right.
What I was meaning was in reply to Jack Burton who said let`s hope he can take it in from the line and do the hard yards.
However a NZ Warriors fan said he doesn`t like doing that.
But maybe we will get a Ryan Hall type player and will be expected to do all that and finish well 10 metres out.
Don`t think my latest explanation has helped at all mate!'"


He didn't seem to mind doing his share when that was not the only reason the Warriors were using him. It became more of an issue when it became apparent that the Warriors outside backs were no longer capable of using him as a try scorer, that was when his game slipped.
The Warriors used a formulaic big Winger kick return start to all sets, Ken Maumalo was their other big winger, he is enormous. Those two, Fusitua and Maumalo, would carry the Props work, it has been that way at the Warriors going back a decade through the Vatuvei era...big Winger plays like a prop.

David has twinkle toes, he is a horse that needs to run, he just needs to get back to try scoring, you cannot stop him when he gets on a roll, a happy David is a nightmare to mark in the red zone. Once he locks onto that corner flag it is game over.

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Quote: Mt Smart "He didn't seem to mind doing his share when that was not the only reason the Warriors were using him. It became more of an issue when it became apparent that the Warriors outside backs were no longer capable of using him as a try scorer, that was when his game slipped.
The Warriors used a formulaic big Winger kick return start to all sets, Ken Maumalo was their other big winger, he is enormous. Those two, Fusitua and Maumalo, would carry the Props work, it has been that way at the Warriors going back a decade through the Vatuvei era...big Winger plays like a prop.

David has twinkle toes, he is a horse that needs to run, he just needs to get back to try scoring, you cannot stop him when he gets on a roll, a happy David is a nightmare to mark in the red zone. Once he locks onto that corner flag it is game over.'"



Great great insight

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His Tongan appearances seem to be poles apart from his recent Warriors efforts too.
Let us hope that we can keep him happy, seems to be down to managment from the outside looking in

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Big challenge for the coaching staff this year is to get a bit more width and fluency in our game in order that the likes of Fusitua, Handley and Newman can profit. This year we were very much down the middle (Dwyer & Leeming top scorers) and of course this was dictated by the constant injuries to our playmakers, but next year, with upgrades in these positions, we can play a more ambitious brand of football. Looking forward to it.

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It was very rare that our half backs put our centres in a position to draw and pass to our wingers, so it is hard to be too critical of our centres. On most occasions, our centres would be swamped by the time they had received a pass.

I am hoping with new half backs that this will see a big improvement.

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "It was very rare that our half backs put our centres in a position to draw and pass to our wingers, so it is hard to be too critical of our centres. On most occasions, our centres would be swamped by the time they had received a pass.

I am hoping with new half backs that this will see a big improvement.'"


We should see some. Quick ptbs and some accuracy from dh will only help further, hopefully that's on the cards too.

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We've got a truly world class back again now.....
Unbelievable business, considering Warriors paying a chunk of his salary too....!

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "It was very rare that our half backs put our centres in a position to draw and pass to our wingers, so it is hard to be too critical of our centres. On most occasions, our centres would be swamped by the time they had received a pass.

I am hoping with new half backs that this will see a big improvement.'"

Good point. We gave lots lack of quality half back options now. We have one of best squads again....

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Quote: Shabino "Good point. We gave lots lack of quality half back options now. We have one of best squads again....'"

or 3 rejects

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Quote: Clearwing "We should see some. Quick ptbs and some accuracy from dh will only help further, hopefully that's on the cards too.'"

Let's hope that Dwyer doesn't get much game time then! Love the guys attitude but he can't pass which is a major issue for a hooker! If you dummy half has to stand up before they pass the ball and then its a big looping pass the balls never going to reach the wing even if you had Sterling and Lewis in the halves. Watch Roby one short step and fast accurate no nonsense pass. In real terms it equates to about 5 yards of space between the defensive line and the offence. We keep talking about props but they are only as good as the ball they run onto. Hooker is the most important position in the modern game.

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Good signing, but now you need a pack of forwards that can play for 80mins to match Saints????????????????

Walmsley Lussick Lees
Mata’utia Sironen
Knowles

LMS Roby Paasi
Hurrell Batchelor
Bell

Amor Smith Norman
Forster Wingfield
Baxter

That’s a lot of forwards

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Quote: Capital Punishment "Good signing, but now you need a pack of forwards that can play for 80mins to match Saints????????????????

Walmsley Lussick Lees
Mata’utia Sironen
Knowles

LMS Roby Paasi
Hurrell Batchelor
Bell

Amor Smith Norman
Forster Wingfield
Baxter

That’s a lot of forwards'"

If you don't fancy Roby as a starter happy to take him on a free

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Quote: Capital Punishment "Good signing, but now you need a pack of forwards that can play for 80mins to match Saints????????????????

Walmsley Lussick Lees
Mata’utia Sironen
Knowles

LMS Roby Paasi
Hurrell Batchelor
Bell

Amor Smith Norman
Forster Wingfield
Baxter

That’s a lot of forwards'"


Oledski Leeming prior
Bentley Martin
Smith

Holroyd Dwyer Tetevano
Mellor gannon
Donaldson

Thompson Johnson Mustapha
Walters edwards
O’Connor

Saints have more depth at prop, I would say we have more depth in the back row. If Hurrell is in the top 4 options for Saints in back row then with a couple of injuries they might have a couple of issues. Couldn’t defend at centre so no chance he can defend there, don’t care how fit he gets.

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Quote: Lprhino "Oledski Leeming prior
Bentley Martin
Smith

Holroyd Dwyer Tetevano
Mellor gannon
Donaldson

Thompson Johnson Mustapha
Walters edwards
O’Connor

Saints have more depth at prop, I would say we have more depth in the back row. If Hurrell is in the top 4 options for Saints in back row then with a couple of injuries they might have a couple of issues. Couldn’t defend at centre so no chance he can defend there, don’t care how fit he gets.'"


Other than Bentley that was your best forwards LAST year that could not match Saints intensity and speed so what's going to change?

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Quote: Capital Punishment "Other than Bentley that was your best forwards LAST year that could not match Saints intensity and speed so what's going to change?'"


Your original point was about the number of forwards. I simply responded in relation to depth.

In terms of your second point, I would respond with the following:

1. Tetevano is in his second year and played a small number of games last year, he is a marquee forward so keeping him fit and on the field makes a difference.
2. Oledzki will be a year better as will Holroyd.
2. Injuries! Saints had limited injuries last year, if they did then that had reasonable cover. Leeds if they can keep their squad relatively injury free would naturally be closer. Take out Walmsley and Knowles like we did Tetevano and oledzki and Saints drop significantly.
3. Saints let go thompson and Bentley and brought in Sironen who had some of his own injury issues. So depth wise Saints have 3 decent back row options (excluding the 13 position) which is sironen, mata’utia and batchelor, that’s one player lighter than last year, I wouldn’t class Bell as anything other than a 13 myself. Leeds have Bentley, Martin, Mellor, gannon and Walters. As I said originally more depth for Leeds to cover those injuries but Saints have more cover in the front row and probably at 13 as well.
4. Roby is a year older, Leeming is a year better and won’t be playing in the halves. lussick is a good player but hasn’t played much and is coming into a new system.
5. LMS is 36 in Jan, Amor 35 in May. Injuries and age will creep up on them, especially if they have to play more to cover any injuries.

Do Saints have a quality pack, yes.
Is it better than Leeds, yes.
Will Leeds be closer to Saints in the pack this year, yes.
If Saints get injuries will they be as dominant in the pack, no.

Leeds aren’t where they need to be yet, they will be closer next year and the year after if they get the recruitment right they will hopefully be there.

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