Some good posts. People will tend to view the COVID dilemma depending on how exposed they are to it medically and commercially. Younger ones who are generally healthy don't take it so seriously, and people who have cast-iron income aren't as bothered about the effects of lockdown.

I lost one business in the last recession which took me 10 years to recover from, and we're just treading the line with this situation so far. For me this outbreak calls for a balance, as with most things - we need to allow enough activity that the whole economy doesn't collapse, but manage cases within limits too.

I'm sure stadia could manage around 5k supporters at events and effectively distance them. How is it any different from the many retail parks that are already open?

We may end up in rolling lock-downs but the govt has to understand that reported numbers are already old: so we have to act quickly to mitigate and act equally quickly to release the lockdown. 2 weeks should be sufficient to put serious breaks on the spread - IF those 2 weeks are effectively stuck to. That's what I would do - advise everyone to be prepared for rolling lock-downs, improve the testing regime, enforce localised lock-downs as they are, put additional protections around the vulnerable - and otherwise crack on with it.

The broad-brush responses we have seen were emergency measures which have caused huge collateral damage; we need to get the scalpel out now we have got to grips with the situation and the science more.

Unfortunately the testing capacity is so low and poorly organised in the UK that the broad brush approach is the only one that works.

If only it was that simple Bats.

Given the Covid situation in Leeds can't see any fans being let in to sporting events anytime soon

Indeed. And as we head into winter I can't see things improving.

Life rarely is...

We have got to find ways to isolate the outbreaks so the rest of society can function in something approaching normality. Whilst the economy is at risk, the education of our kids and the mental health of the community are also high priorities for me. That means we must find ways to get people back together again in both work and social circumstances.

Lots of efficient testing and tracing is the only way.

What will be interesting, if we are ever allowed back in again, is how many & who. How are they going to pick 3/4/5k from 9k season ticket holders?

They did it by ballot for the Harlequins game on Saturday. I guess something similar.

how were union let in this week?

They are one of the sports trialing spectators at the moment.

I fully support crowds coming back now.
Seems bonkers you can sit within a yard of someone in a pub or restaurant, but not in an outdoor stand...

Once the rise in cases translates into pressure on the NHS and you factor in the usual winter pressures and seasonal flu I can see the government having to make some very difficult and unpopular decisions by Christmas.

Don't make any big plans that you can't cancel.

Yep. 3000 fans.

It looks like we will be lucky to be allowed into the ground this season to watch the rugby. the latest changes to the rules suggests not. If they cancelled the trail at Doncaster races due to coronavirus, and the crowd was spread around the course. How would anyone come up with a system that would let a certain number of fans into the ground even if they were allowed to do so. Where do you start, someone mentioned we have 9,000 season tickets, I suggest if you include the corporate entertainment and the season tickets they buy the number is higher. numerous clients have tables of ten, including food at £200 per person per game £2k per match. where are they going to put them. Can you see any GH wanting to refund them for the 10 outstanding games £20k. There is a lot of money that is held by Rhinos that rightly is not theirs. There are some tough decisions that are going to be made going forward, question is, are the RFL good enough to get us all through this pandemic.