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| Quote: Brodie123 "Exactly,'"
That's fine. Demote them or whatever but what does it achieve? It will probably bankrupt the club, if they aren't already, or at best leave it clinging on for dear life.
Tbh the whole thing was sadly inevitable. We can't keep a club going at decent level over the way in Wales. The chances of one taking off in Canada was pretty slim.
If the RFL are serious about expansion on any level they need to figure out how to do it as almost all attempts over the last 30 years have failed. Or we could just face into the truth that the sport we love isn't that important to others. Never had been and never will be (yep, I did actually say that).
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| Quote: Fallon "That's fine. Demote them or whatever but what does it achieve? It will probably bankrupt the club, if they aren't already, or at best leave it clinging on for dear life.
Tbh the whole thing was sadly inevitable. We can't keep a club going at decent level over the way in Wales. The chances of one taking off in Canada was pretty slim.
If the RFL are serious about expansion on any level they need to figure out how to do it as almost all attempts over the last 30 years have failed. Or we could just face into the truth that the sport we love isn't that important to others. Never had been and never will be (yep, I did actually say that).'"
You do realise that they haven’t only hit financial issues, but they have put in doubt the integrity of our competition, and shafted innocent families where careers could be threatened?
Why should the rules change for one club who’s actions are far worse than previous clubs, who have been penalised accordingly for their misdemeanours?
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| They’re not the first club to do it and they won’t be the last.
The only sustainable way to run this sport is on 5 year franchises with Any club who meets certain criteria able to join.
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| Personally I think TWP should be relegated and a Championship team promoted. If SL let them stay in SL next year it will give off all the possible wrong signals. I somehow think they won’t be around Next year period.
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| Why should a championship club be promoted when they are doing the same as Toronto?
No promotion or relegation announced anyway.
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| Quote: Fallon "
Tbh the whole thing was sadly inevitable. We can't keep a club going at decent level over the way in Wales. The chances of one taking off in Canada was pretty slim.
If the RFL are serious about expansion on any level they need to figure out how to do it as almost all attempts over the last 30 years have failed. Or we could just face into the truth that the sport we love isn't that important to others. Never had been and never will be (yep, I did actually say that).'"
You do know the Lamport Stadium in Toronto was regularly getting 8000 for Championship games?
It did take off in Toronto Canada. Our sport has just looked a gift horse in the mouth.
Sadly our small time backward thinking clubs didn’t want Toronto in Super League as they were worried they’d take their place. They were denied a share of the tv money and obstacles put in their way. Instead we will have Wakefield, Featherstone, Leigh. The sports going nowhere.
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| I know it's awful for you having to put up with those crappy teams
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| The only thing the RFL & SL need to do in light if this is to strengthen their due dilligence before letting another clueless "owner" comes wading in with a new PR Stunt empty promises & BS predictions.
This notion that the sport owes TWP anything is ridiculous even more so in light of recent events.
This has been bubbling along for months court cases back home in Canada players not getting paid on time if at all.
The visa issues are imo something they should have prepared for it isnt the RFL's responsability.
Once again working people players & their families suffer at the hands of a clueless attention seeking wannabe RL Club owner.
C19 hasnt helped but the brutal honesty is TWP was never going work long term under we'll wing it grab some headlines & hope our promises oay off ownership.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "You do know the Lamport Stadium in Toronto was regularly getting 8000 for Championship games?
It did take off in Toronto Canada. Our sport has just looked a gift horse in the mouth.
Sadly our small time backward thinking clubs didn’t want Toronto in Super League as they were worried they’d take their place. They were denied a share of the tv money and obstacles put in their way. Instead we will have Wakefield, Featherstone, Leigh. The sports going nowhere.'"
Free tickets can boost a lot if attendances , the Sport hasn,'t looked any gift horse in the mouth at all.
The clueless owners BS empty promises & pr stunts have caught up with him.
Delusional to blame SL for an owners failings the criteria didnt stop Catalans
SL owes TWP nothing.
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| How do you feel about the Championship and League 1 clubs not playing either Mark?
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Toronto Wolfpack are set to add Halifax forward Paul Brearley to their squad in 2021.
League Express can reveal the Wolfpack are close to finalising a deal.
He is Toronto’s second signing from the Championship ahead of 2021, with Brearley set to join Toulouse’s James Bell in Brian McDermott’s squad next season.
Deals for Ryan Hall, Stevie Ward, Richie Myler and Ben Flower are all thought to have been completed for next year too.
Meanwhile, League Express understands current Wolfpack backrower Bodene Thompson has signed a new long-term deal with the club.
Thompson, 31, joined the club last season and has gone on to make 27 appearances for the club, scoring five tries.
A Super League Grand Finalist with Warrington in 2018, Thompson is believed to have signed a multi-year deal with the club and joins the likes of Gareth O’Brien, Matty Russell and Anthony Mullally in committing to the club.
Was you once a violin player for the band on the titanic in a former life
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Free tickets can boost a lot if attendances , the Sport hasn,'t looked any gift horse in the mouth at all.
The clueless owners BS empty promises & pr stunts have caught up with him.
Delusional to blame SL for an owners failings the criteria didnt stop Catalans
SL owes TWP nothing.'"
Catalans get a share of the sky tv money, Toronto do not.
Catalans entered our league system in Super League, Toronto entered in League One. Catalans do not pay away teams travel costs, Toronto do pay away teams travel costs. Catalans were exempt from relegation for 3 years, Toronto were not given any exemption.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "How do you feel about the Championship and League 1 clubs not playing either Mark?'"
Another sh#*t show & unfortunately i can see a few going into Admin or folding.
Many of them seem keen enough to get their seasons back on track but it doesnt seem viable from the outside looking in but i also think the Leagues coulld havd been given a bit more time to come up with solutions.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Catalans get a share of the sky tv money, Toronto do not.
Catalans entered our league system in Super League, Toronto entered in League One. Catalans do not pay away teams travel costs, Toronto do pay away teams travel costs. Catalans were exempt from relegation for 3 years, Toronto were not given any exemption.'"
As soon as TWP were promoted talks were ongoung about scrapping relegation.
Catalans also brokered their pwn tv deal with cansl+ SKY used to piggy back iff thst coverage so get that straight.
Catalabs also had a clear business plan & a strong enough support base from the owner downwards with a clear interest in RL in that area.
Toronto OFFERED to oay travel as a condition of their entry into our League mate so that woe is us BS doesnt wash.
They came with promise after promise about big tv deals spinsorzhip in Canada etc etc & fsiled to deliver.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Catalans get a share of the sky tv money, Toronto do not.
Catalans entered our league system in Super League, Toronto entered in League One. Catalans do not pay away teams travel costs, Toronto do pay away teams travel costs. Catalans were exempt from relegation for 3 years, Toronto were not given any exemption.'"
Toronto are too far away out on a limb to have ever worked , it was a ridiculous stunt right from the start and was always going to fail . Some players saw them as a cash cow and got paid more than they ever would by an English team and others such as Wilkin and S.W.B have just topped up their pension funds .
Toronto were going to get their own T.V. deal
Toronto were going to produce their own players
If they are crying the poor tale now it is for reasons such as 1. The money wasted on a washed up S.W.B AND 2. The owner is looking at a new Toy to invest his money
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